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Old 11-20-2009, 09:44 PM
 
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I have noticed that many older vegetarians look older than their years, ie wrinkled and have course, grey hair. Perhaps it is just not having any extra body fat to plump things up.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Decatur, IL
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I have noticed that many older vegetarians look older than their years, ie wrinkled and have course, grey hair. Perhaps it is just not having any extra body fat to plump things up.
Why on earth would you think that vegetarians don't have any extra body fat?
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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I have noticed that many older vegetarians look older than their years, ie wrinkled and have course, grey hair. Perhaps it is just not having any extra body fat to plump things up.
I am 70 and have been a vegetarian for about 40 years.
My skin is not wrinkled.
My facial hair is grey.
The hair on my head is still it's original dark color, with a little sprinkling of grey.
As far as "extra body fat to plump things up"-
I have plenty of that.
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Old 11-25-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I am 70 and have been a vegetarian for about 40 years.
My skin is not wrinkled.
My facial hair is grey.
The hair on my head is still it's original dark color, with a little sprinkling of grey.
As far as "extra body fat to plump things up"-
I have plenty of that.
You're 70 and have no wrinkles?
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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You're 70 and have no wrinkles?
That's right.

I have arthritis and worn out joints, but no wrinkles on my face or anywhere else.
And no dry, sagging skin that a lot of old geezers get.

I don't know if it has anything to do with a vegetarian diet though.

It's probably due more to genetics and the fact that I never took hot, soapy showers that I always believed stripped the body and hair of essential oils.

I always take barely warm showers with minimum use of mild soap and shampoo.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Dr. Neal Bernard and Dr. Gabriel Cousens are reversing Type II diabetes by putting patients on low-fat, vegan diets...

These findings were proven in a study underwritten by the NIH in 2003.

I guess this would make these vegans more healthy than their non-vegan diabetic counterparts.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't like generalizations.
Vegetarians aren't somehow more healthier because they're vegetarians. I have a vegetarian friend whose doctor told him he needed to lose 25 pounds.

My girlfriend is vegetarian but I think she's at a high risk for diabetes because she is inactive and she doesn't eat right. I hardly ever see her eating fruits and vegetables. It's mainly carbs and junk food (candy, fruit snacks, etc).

Some studies have shown that vegetarians tend to exercise more than the average person. That might have an effect on studies that shown all these positive health outcomes to being a vegetarian.

I'm fine with eating meat and as long as you don't bash me for it, we're cool. I don't bash vegetarians and they shouldn't bash me.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Texas or Cascais, Portugal
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Agree that that are too many variables to state whether vegetarians or meat eaters are more healthy. A lot depends on how you define healthy, and other lifestyle factors. I don't eat any red meat or poultry, but do eat fish and some dairy. Most of my calories come from fresh veggies and fruit, whole grains, nuts and seeds. That said I do drink wine almost daily and spent years in the sun with little sunscreen. So, although I exercise daily and eat a fairly nutritous diet, I look older than my years. A lot of health risks associated with a poor diet include increased cancer risks, exposure to excessive hormones and toxic chemicals so, although you may have decent findings on a physical exam, there could still be considerable molecular damage due to diet not detectable by common lab tests. I've also known many vegetarians who smoke so, simply being vegetarian doesn't necessarily correlate with a healthful lifestyle.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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Excellent point raised above...there are all types of vegan-vegetarian diets--some are plant-based with whole grains and some fruits, and some are junk-food, dairy (if non-vegan) and white flour-based...so maybe this question is too broad-based to even ask without defining the type of vegetarian/vegan diet that's being eaten...

My cousin's a vegetarian but his largest food group seems to be ice-cream, butter and cheese so I doubt he's overly healthy...

The diabetes reversal diet is low-fat and plant-based, by the way...
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Agree that that are too many variables to state whether vegetarians or meat eaters are more healthy. A lot depends on how you define healthy, and other lifestyle factors. I don't eat any red meat or poultry, but do eat fish and some dairy. Most of my calories come from fresh veggies and fruit, whole grains, nuts and seeds. That said I do drink wine almost daily and spent years in the sun with little sunscreen. So, although I exercise daily and eat a fairly nutritous diet, I look older than my years. A lot of health risks associated with a poor diet include increased cancer risks, exposure to excessive hormones and toxic chemicals so, although you may have decent findings on a physical exam, there could still be considerable molecular damage due to diet not detectable by common lab tests. I've also known many vegetarians who smoke so, simply being vegetarian doesn't necessarily correlate with a healthful lifestyle.
The problem with many people is that they eat TOO much meat.
I don't think there is anything wrong with meat in general but studies have shown Americans eat TOO much meat.

Anyone can have a poor diet, whether you are a vegetarian or someone who consumes meat. Plus even with the "perfect diet," if you don't exercise, you're in a world of trouble.

I like to think of my girlfriend as a junk food vegetarian. She has all these health issues and I keep telling her if she ate better, she'd feel better.

I really like this discussion.
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