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Old 10-21-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Greater Boston
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I am not from Vermont so I have nothing to say about the candidates. But there is something all of us , everywhere , have to face up to: the stimulus money that covered up for a lot of political and spending sins by all politicians ain't going to be there next year. All the states that have done the necessary budgetary adjustments will be fine; others are going to be in a world of hurt if they do not take care of their finances. (Here in Mass they will probably ***** the state to the casinos so they can have more money to over spend .)
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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I don't like either option.

I work in a field that covers political issues and both candidates have dropped by. I'm not impressed by either.

Schumlin is very negative and whiny. He offered a few pie-in-the-sky ideas on what he'd do if elected with being very specific or offering details on how he would fund his initiatives. But mostly he just whined about Dubie and Douglas.

Dubie is essentially a good old boy. Very amiable, but not much new to bring to the table. Plus, on a personal note, some of his ideas on state funding would hurt my family financially.

Whoever wins, I doubt the state's economic situation will improve over the next two years. And I'm sure nothing will be done to fix the school funding debacle.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:46 AM
 
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I am finding the election campaigns quite disheartening in general -- I too was 300% behind Deb and I believe, and certainly hope, that she will run again; until the NEXT election [smile], clearly we must concentrate on what's happening right now, and what both candidates are saying and what they represent in all arenas: economy, education, jobs, social issues which absolutely must include women's reproductive rights.
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:11 AM
 
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I thought it was interesting to see, last night, the latest Dubie campaign w/women who were stating that they were 'pro-choice' and voting for Dubie, especially after the above-article came out. Although I do not believe that our legislature would change the law(s), at least I would certainly hope not, I think this issue is of grave concern and cannot be overlooked, just as education issues, support for law enforcement, jobs, economy and services cannot be overlooked and/or negated.

I can't help but to remember the quote from the Tale of Two Cities:
It was the best of times,
It was the worst of times,
It was the age of wisdom,
It was the age of foolishness.......

I am equally as concerned that people will not vote - too often we hear people say "I am only one person, what's the difference with my vote" -- well, as we all saw in the primary, it was soooo close and the primary may well have been a different result if everyone voted...not only, in my opinion, is voting a necessity, it is also a privilege.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Anyone who supports a "right" to murder humans, will never see a vote from me.
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Old 10-22-2010, 04:57 PM
 
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Been meaning to post this. but I had a friend up and he decided Shumlin would win by a nose. Sorry I laughed my coffee out my nose! ( oops didn't realize that pun)
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:38 PM
 
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Hi that was pretty clever swanstone1-- to gingerly, very gingerly approach the subject of women's reproductive rights and I sure don't mean to get into a debate about that topic in this forum, which is to discuss Vermont Governor's Race - and I do realize it entails the platforms of the candidates...I do think it is important; however, to clarify that women's reproductive rights does not mean 'abortion' / 'murder' as connected - that part of it is, I believe, a personal decision and that decision should be made by that person based on their personal beliefs, mores, religious connections or lack thereof, women's reproductive rights means choice - and there are many many people who will absolutely never even consider having an abortion for themselves and yet are pro-choice. It truly is about choice. One never knows what a person is going through when they may be compelled to have to make a decision. I certainly have no right to judge that person, nor does anyone else. It is a right and a choice. I prefer to have a leader in place who will in fact respect one's right and one's choice. This is certainly a slippery slope of a conversation and there are many many other political issues of major concern: education! job creations! job enhancements! health care that everyone can afford! ability to attend college! environmental concerns! housing market! and the like.
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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As the Declaration of Independence states..."right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..." Life is the most important right. It's not a "choice," it's murder, and over 90 percent of these murders are for issues of convenience. America will pay more dearly than the Germans for its crimes. The origins of the abortion "rights" movement, are in the eugenics movement (a major part of the pgroressive movement so many of our politicians like to claim ties to), of which Sanger (planned parenthood founder) was a major part (Vermont had eugenics laws until the 1970's...they forcibly sterilized people deemed undesirable). Sanger praised the eugenics programs of the Nazis, until after WWII it became about "rights" (laughable as they wanted permits required to have children). Apart from being a fool on economics, Shumlin is a supporter of murder.
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:26 PM
 
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We all do have a right to an opinion, that is what makes us citizens fortunate to be in this country AND that is just another reason why we have a right, obligation and privilege to vote on the topics or against the topics and issues that we all feel are so important.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:54 PM
 
Location: on a dirt road in Waitsfield,Vermont
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I too will not be voting in the governor race, don't like either candidate. The person I liked also lost in the primary. She's short on statue but tall on her ethics and ability to lead.
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