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Old 01-25-2011, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I will say, I enjoy Long Trail.
Man, I just don't see it.

Being a fan of spicy food, and noticing crushed red pepper seems to have no effect on me anymore, I may have burned off the tastebuds necessary to enjoy Long Trail. I actually like Bud better.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Western views of Mansfield/Camels Hump!
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It is the Three Penny Taproom...haven't been either but hope to soon. Read a lot of good things about it.

Also wanted to check out the BlackBack Pub (and Flyshop?!) in Waterbury - quickdraw is that the one you were thinking of? They have Hill Farmstead on draft right now...
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Western views of Mansfield/Camels Hump!
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Has anyone been to the Reservoir in Waterbury? They've got a lot of offerings on tap...
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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It is the Three Penny Taproom...haven't been either but hope to soon. Read a lot of good things about it.

Also wanted to check out the BlackBack Pub (and Flyshop?!) in Waterbury - quickdraw is that the one you were thinking of? They have Hill Farmstead on draft right now...
that's the one

if we keep talking about it, I just may jump in the car and go. i was having a discussion about bagels on another sight recently and had to jump in the car and get a couple of bagels from Meyers.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Willey's is in "downtown" Greensboro. You can't miss it.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Willey's is in "downtown" Greensboro. You can't miss it.
Awesome. I'll try checking it out when we visit in warmer weather. We never get near "downtown" Greensboro. We usually just head up 16 towards the brewery.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Colchester, Vt
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I'm a bit disappointed in the present offerings by micros in the US as most beers seem to be super hopped or stouts. Americans seem to like something and just go overboard, I'd prefer more of a balance in our beers like the german brewers provide. I can't say I'm in love with any of the Vermont bottled beers either. I find Magic Hat and Long Trail to be exceptionally bland. Otter Creek is just decent. Trout river-no. I've enjoyed some of the McNeils but you really have to check the date on the bottle because they start tasting a bit metallic close to expiration. I'd like to try these on tap.

I don't know of anyone in Vermont who can touch these guys. Not even close.
I am a bit of a beer connoisseur. I won't pick on the Vermont brewers alone. You find this throughout the country.
If I had to pick my favorite Vermont beer I would say it is by far Switchback. The best thing about this beer is you can only get it on draught. I feel much the same with Otter Creak, Longtrail, Magic Hat (my least favorite), ect. There are good local brews, but nothing that can compare with the best of say Belgium. What I consider great would have to leave an impression for life.
I have been very spoild. I spent a long time in both Belgium (what I consider the best beer in the world) and Germany. I would love to see something come close to a Chimay Grande Réserve (aged), St Bernardus or Achel Blonde. If there is please let me know. I need more impressions.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I am a bit of a beer connoisseur. I won't pick on the Vermont brewers alone. You find this throughout the country.
If I had to pick my favorite Vermont beer I would say it is by far Switchback. The best thing about this beer is you can only get it on draught. I feel much the same with Otter Creak, Longtrail, Magic Hat (my least favorite), ect. There are good local brews, but nothing that can compare with the best of say Belgium. What I consider great would have to leave an impression for life.
I have been very spoild. I spent a long time in both Belgium (what I consider the best beer in the world) and Germany. I would love to see something come close to a Chimay Grande Réserve (aged), St Bernardus or Achel Blonde. If there is please let me know. I need more impressions.
I consider a lot of American beers to be the best in the world. So many Belgian beers are solid, but eventually they all start to taste the same. American breweries tend to be more adventurous these days. Dogfish Head was mentioned earlier. They're one of the most adventurous, taking ancient styles and making them modern. I've been impressed by a lot of their newer offerings. But the majority of breweries suffer from the same problems. They all feel they need to offer the same standard beers... IPA, pale ale, amber/red ale, brown ale, even an easy porter... but they don't do any of them really well. My favorite IPA actually came from Stone Coast in ME, but they closed. It was their 420 IPA (still available at the Sunday River Brewing Co in Bethel). They also make a great Altbier (another style I really enjoy that few breweries make, Long Trail and Otter Creek being 2 of those breweries).

Hill Farmstead has made some great Saisons and his winter porter (I forget the name of it, something of the Idols) is easily the best porter I have ever tasted. He's also doing some sour beers now I think.

Trapp Lager (I've only had the standard lager, none of the other) is one of the best lagers I've had. I wish more American breweries would make more German styles than Belgian styles. You don't see as many of them.

Lawson's does some great stuff with maple syrup in his beers, and his IPAs are excellent. His Weiss-K was the best American Hefeweizen I've had and I'm not a big fan of hefe's.
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Old 01-25-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I am a bit of a beer connoisseur. I won't pick on the Vermont brewers alone. You find this throughout the country.
If I had to pick my favorite Vermont beer I would say it is by far Switchback. The best thing about this beer is you can only get it on draught. I feel much the same with Otter Creak, Longtrail, Magic Hat (my least favorite), ect. There are good local brews, but nothing that can compare with the best of say Belgium. What I consider great would have to leave an impression for life.
I have been very spoild. I spent a long time in both Belgium (what I consider the best beer in the world) and Germany. I would love to see something come close to a Chimay Grande Réserve (aged), St Bernardus or Achel Blonde. If there is please let me know. I need more impressions.
i go in and out of the belgian phase. have you tried the unibroue offerings from quebec? pretty good. I tend to drink these just because I'm not into the super hopped stuff that has flooded the market. I'd like someone to do a good malty british style.

I like the Chimay and Achel, tried St. Bernardus once and maybe I wasn't in the mood. Can't take the wet horse blanket smell of Orval either. Maybe it is an acquired taste.

If I check the ratings on Beer Advocate, I look for the beers with a rating of B. If the beer is rated with an A, I know it is basically a hop sandwich.
If a malt beer gets a b score, I know it's good because people who know what the beer should taste like will give it an a, and the johnny come lately hopheads will give it a "c" because "not enough hops", "kind of weak-no bite".
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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i go in and out of the belgian phase. have you tried the unibroue offerings from quebec? pretty good. I tend to drink these just because I'm not into the super hopped stuff that has flooded the market. I'd like someone to do a good malty british style.

I like the Chimay and Achel, tried St. Bernardus once and maybe I wasn't in the mood. Can't take the wet horse blanket smell of Orval either. Maybe it is an acquired taste.

If I check the ratings on Beer Advocate, I look for the beers with a rating of B. If the beer is rated with an A, I know it is basically a hop sandwich.
If a malt beer gets a b score, I know it's good because people who know what the beer should taste like will give it an a, and the johnny come lately hopheads will give it a "c" because "not enough hops", "kind of weak-no bite".
I no longer (or at least rarely) read BeerAdvocate for a few reasons which I won't mention here. But keep this in mind... check on the styles of the beers. Those individual beers that deserve the high scores usually get them. Styles that tend to be overly hopped are any of the American styles, especially IPAs, Double IPAs, pale ales, amber ales, imperial red ales, barleywines, etc. Some American stouts are overly hopped, but many are not and are truly amazing. Some of the ones that are overly hopped will be incredibly malty after 6 months to a year of aging and taste awesome.

Look for beers with the English style IPA, pale ale, barleywine, etc. The Irish red ales are also malty.
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