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Old 09-29-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Hill Farmstead has Ephraim, their almost ten percent DIPA that caused Shaun Hill to complain to Ebay about his beer being sold online. It's sweet but very funky, in a good way. A tad over the top for me, I'm an Abner man.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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i saw hill farmstead has 3 beers at the hunger mtn coop. 2 they make, including a 4.5% wheat that was pretty good, and a 3rd is brewed there, but made by someone else (maybe someone else's recipe?).

just back from siptemberfest... i liked the caledonia gin and grateful hands brewing stout. also the sixpoint porter. didn't get a chance to try a bunch of the beers before they sold out.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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I'm not criticizing Lawson and understand the high unit cost of small batches. From the standpoint of a Vermont consumer, his beer is very expensive, almost up there with single malt whiskies. He makes good beer by Vermont standards, but at a poor value. I don't mind supporting him from a local business standpoint, but still I don't think you get a good value for the money. I love the Warren Store and will continue to buy his stuff, with a few grumbles now and then. Heady Topper is a better beer than any of Lawson's that I've tried so far, but the business trajectory of The Alchemist is a bit of a turnoff to me, a post-capitalism thinker. In a way I would prefer it if Lawson continued just the way he does - he just better make truly outstanding beers.
I'm not sure what you mean about the Alchemist and their business plan. Heady is easily the most well-known world class VT beer. And with it being so easy to get, people go for it. When they were just a brewpub, it was harder to come by and not always on tap. Now that it's canned (and really the only beer they make besides Celia at this point), people come from all over to get it. They're growing, but can't keep up with demand.

On another note, Hill Farmstead is also expanding, but he also sells his beer in NYC and Philly (I don't think he's even in Boston yet). So outside of VT, you can find it on tap at a bar or 2 in NYC and Philly. That's a business plan I'm not overly fond of. I prefer breweries spread more locally first.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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BTW there is a beer festival at MRG this weekend as well as one in Killington. Met a couple of out of state brewers from the Killington festival today who drove up to Warren to buy Lawsons. The owner of Founders Brewery in Michigan stopped into the Warren Store a few days ago while on a leaf peeping vacation and it turns out the Warren Store might be carrying their beer in the near future. I am not familiar with it but the beer specialist at the Warren Store says it's great beer. Any one familiar with Founders?

A brewery in Maine in collaberation with Lawson, I think it's called The Maine Brewery Co.? has produced some popular beers sold at the Warren Store. The last batch was called Mean Old Tom.
Founders is an incredible brewery. I've never had something from them I didn't like (except Cerise, which is an odd cherry beer).

The Maine Brewing Co is also a solid brewery. I had a couple of their beers and really enjoyed them.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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I'm not sure what you mean about the Alchemist and their business plan. Heady is easily the most well-known world class VT beer. And with it being so easy to get, people go for it. When they were just a brewpub, it was harder to come by and not always on tap. Now that it's canned (and really the only beer they make besides Celia at this point), people come from all over to get it. They're growing, but can't keep up with demand.

On another note, Hill Farmstead is also expanding, but he also sells his beer in NYC and Philly (I don't think he's even in Boston yet). So outside of VT, you can find it on tap at a bar or 2 in NYC and Philly. That's a business plan I'm not overly fond of. I prefer breweries spread more locally first.
Heady Topper is easier to get than the Lawson's, but currently it has limited distribution. It was available in Middlebury last spring, but not since. I've driven to the brewery in Waterbury to stock up 3 times. What I meant was that The Alchemist is ramping up production for much wider distribution than Lawson's is ever likely to have. Lawson's doesn't seem to be interested in wide distribution.

I'm hoping to get a hold of some Hill Farmstead beer but haven't yet. The best Vermont beers are hard to come by in Middlebury. Otter Creek makes some acceptable beers, but none that I've tried are exceptional.
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Heady Topper is easier to get than the Lawson's, but currently it has limited distribution. It was available in Middlebury last spring, but not since. I've driven to the brewery in Waterbury to stock up 3 times. What I meant was that The Alchemist is ramping up production for much wider distribution than Lawson's is ever likely to have. Lawson's doesn't seem to be interested in wide distribution.

I'm hoping to get a hold of some Hill Farmstead beer but haven't yet. The best Vermont beers are hard to come by in Middlebury. Otter Creek makes some acceptable beers, but none that I've tried are exceptional.
Some breweries have big dreams, others like where they are. I don't see increasing distribution of Heady to be a problem. They already distribute Celia to MA. They're not going to increase distribution by cutting back on the VT market. That'd be dumb.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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Hill is available on tap in a couple MA locations.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Hill is available on tap in a couple MA locations.
Where????!?!?!?!?!?!
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Where????!?!?!?!?!?!
Armsby Abbey in Worcester gets some from time to time. They had a keg of Ephraim last week, I imagine it's gone by now. They seem to be close with Shaun Hill, they have mult-course dinners featured around
several HF ales at least a couple times a year.

http://armsbyabbey.com/
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Armsby Abbey in Worcester gets some from time to time. They had a keg of Ephraim last week, I imagine it's gone by now. They seem to be close with Shaun Hill, they have mult-course dinners featured around
several HF ales at least a couple times a year.

http://armsbyabbey.com/
Yeah, we have a restaurant-owner in Providence who is friends with Shaun. They had a beer dinner, but i had to miss it.
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