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Old 07-29-2007, 10:53 AM
 
Location: North Central PA
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My family and I are contemplating moving around the Brattleboro/White River Jct. area. I have applied for employment in state corrections and have interviews lined up. Having read more negative than good, I question if this type of employment will be enough to support my family of five. Of course my wife will also work. My wife has an associates degree, and has worked in the human services field for over ten years. We currently live in northern Pa. and the job market here is HORRIBLE!!! Unemployment rate for our county is over 5%. Our jobs of ten years have gotten us absolutely no place, and we make descent wage for this area. If I were to get the corrections job I would be making four to five dollars more an hour plus the opportunity for advancement. Which is non-existent here. I'm in my early thirities and view this as one of the last possible chances I may have to obtain this kind of work, which I desire. I would appreciate any neg/pos feedback on this type of employment, housing/schools in this area, whether renting or buying property. Also, I have not heard a lot about Springfield. My job may possibly be located here if hired. Any feedback about this would also be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:13 PM
 
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I grew up in Bellows Falls, left in 1994. I will never go back. The weather is bad, schools are fine, TAXES are terrible. I can honestly say I haven't missed it at all. If you want to get into corrections you should at least consider North Carolina. I've been here 7 years and have no plans to leave. We do have long, hot summers, too much traffic and overcrowded schools. However, crime is low, the economy is HOT, and the cost of living is reasonable. Hope that helps.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:06 AM
 
Location: hinesburg, vt
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The Vermont Dept of Corrections is constantly hiring, refer to the state employment website. Starting wage is at just below $15 p/hr and follows step increases which you can check out on the state web site. Note, step increases are annual only the first five years, then every other year, and after I believe after 12 or 14 years every three years, so keep that in mind when you look at the pay chart. Now, why is corrections always hiring? Because the turnover rate is extremely high. There was an article in the news where they claim that they are getting that under control, but I know two people who work in corrections and two others who quit. The scheduling and overtime requirements can become brutal. Keep in mind also that there are quite a few deductions to your gross pay, so to keep a family housed, fed, clothed requires two full time jobs and maybe even a part time add on depending on choice of housing and the corresponding property tax. The lure of corrections work is that they have facilities across the state, but do realize if you move into a rural area and decide that the job is not for you it could cause problems.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:05 AM
 
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The Vermont Dept of Corrections is constantly hiring, refer to the state employment website. Starting wage is at just below $15 p/hr and follows step increases which you can check out on the state web site. Note, step increases are annual only the first five years, then every other year, and after I believe after 12 or 14 years every three years, so keep that in mind when you look at the pay chart. Now, why is corrections always hiring? Because the turnover rate is extremely high. There was an article in the news where they claim that they are getting that under control, but I know two people who work in corrections and two others who quit. The scheduling and overtime requirements can become brutal. Keep in mind also that there are quite a few deductions to your gross pay, so to keep a family housed, fed, clothed requires two full time jobs and maybe even a part time add on depending on choice of housing and the corresponding property tax. The lure of corrections work is that they have facilities across the state, but do realize if you move into a rural area and decide that the job is not for you it could cause problems.
In other words, don't move to Vermont. Just my opinion. Nice place to visit but I can't imagine ever living there again. One of my brothers still lives in Bellow Falls and pays $500 a month for a one bedroom apartment. BF is a WELFARE TOWN (okay, village)!!!!!! I've tried to get him to move down here. No luck.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:48 AM
 
Location: hinesburg, vt
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It's not so much a blantant don't move to Vermont as it is do your homework and know your tolerance to doing without. Of course for some who participate or read these forums they either from steady professional employment or successful investments can swing it without much sacrifice. My tolerance is getting to the point where if I have to start tapping into savings or retirement accounts just to pay for basic everyday living, then that sends up red flags. I take advantage of many of the unique things Vermont offers, but I also have to keep an eye out for what is down the road five, ten, or more years down the road. Affordability is a word that is mentioned often in political circles here, but when the rubber needs to meet the road the agendas get skewed and nothing substantive is being done to work on the issue. A good number of our state law and policy makers in my opinion are not taking steps necessary to ensure economic viability and responsible and sustainable growth will take place here. The stark reality is that many folks are just tapped out and the deep pockets mentality combined with feel good agendas will not ultimately work. On the Vt FAQ thread the original poster was dead on in suggesting that one rents first. The reference to the two year point is also interesting that at least if one bought here and decides to leave after two years any profit up to a good amount won't be taxed on a sale of a home.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Hartford County
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:20 PM
 
Location: North Central PA
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Smile Corrections/Moving family

Thank you all for your responses! Were still not sure of our exact intentions on where to move, but the help/opinions are definately appreciated!!
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Winter Springs, FL
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I agree with renting for a year or two. If Vermont is not for you, you can get out at the end of your lease. If you buy it may be well over a year before you are able to move. I have to rent my home because I have not been able to sell it. It's fairly priced, but it's in a part of the state that doesn't have a good housing market.

This is a great state in so many ways, but it can be very hard to survive here. Both my wife and myself are professionals and get paid very well compared to most in the state and we have difficulties keeping our heads above water with Taxes, utilities, ect, ect.

Do your homework completely before moving. Look at Taxes, utilities, Heating costs in the winter, price of gas x distances you will need to drive for work and stores, insurance, cost of a home or rent, and anything else I may have left out. You don't want to move and find yourself in a worse situation than you are in right now. In reality 4-5 dollars may not be enough if you have to pay more on any of the listed costs.
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:09 AM
 
Location: hinesburg, vt
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Trying to sell now can be a bit difficult in terms of getting your asking price or close to it. With all the market news an army of buyers will low ball in hopes of finding a seller who has a time specific need to sell and move. I was reading on the NY LI threads that many are going through that there. The best position to be in right now is that if you want to sell and move and have time to wait for the right offer. Overall, I think the market here in Vt still has quite a few qualified and interested buyers coming in and considering the supply and types of homes time and patience will benefit the seller.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Sunny Naples Florida :)
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In other words, don't move to Vermont. Just my opinion. Nice place to visit but I can't imagine ever living there again. One of my brothers still lives in Bellow Falls and pays $500 a month for a one bedroom apartment. BF is a WELFARE TOWN (okay, village)!!!!!! I've tried to get him to move down here. No luck.
$500 a month is a steal and a half, I just moved from Florida the ONLY one bedroom we could find that was affordable where I used to live was $950 a month. It was a steal for sure!
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