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Old 09-24-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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I've read online that Subaru has been experimenting with hybrid concept cars, and plans a hybrid for 2103. I don't know if it the hybrid will be available in the US or if the hybrid engine will be restricted to one particular model, or perhaps to a new model altogether.

At the same time, it may be better to avoid a new model for the first year, and wait until the manufacturer get the kinks out.

A hybrid AWD could be a Vermonter's dream!

The 2012 Imprezas are reported to have much improved gas mileage, but I don't think they are available here yet. At least I don't see any on the local dealership's website.

I meant 2013!
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Old 09-24-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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We have two. Including one with 200,000 miles and you're right. No problem getting up our steep, curvy driveway in a foot of snow.

But I do love Subarus. My dream car is a green Subaru Forester. Hubby thinks they're overpriced, however, so not likely to buy one anytime soon.
we have a 99 crv with 215k. gets us up the uphill curvy driveway every time.

we also have an 01 Ford Taurus big problem on the driveway. we are getting rid of it this week because winters around here are hard enough
with out a fwd car stuck, turned sideways, halfway up the driveway.

We may get a Forrester, but it has an antiquated 4 sp automatic. Kind of boring to drive. The passenger is seated way too low in front of dashboard.
I can't see the road from the driver position, front is too high.


The Kia Sportage is nice but has bad sight lines out the back with the tiny window. More fun to drive than the Forrester. KIas are now pretty expensive though.

As for the new CRV - I don't like the looks and the ground clearance actually looks lower than my 99.

Toyota RAV4? Why isn't anyone talking about them. Are they as good in the snow?

I wish honda never changed the 99 crv model. it was perfect.

no clear cut winner for me and I want a new car within two weeks.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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I liked that model of CRV too. My neighbor has a new one with the rounded windows. It's black with tinted glass. It looks like a hearse for short people.
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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I liked that model of CRV too. My neighbor has a new one with the rounded windows. It's black with tinted glass. It looks like a hearse for short people.
I definitely miss the large rectangular rear windows like in old volvos and subarus. . the small, high rear windows look sleek, but I can imagine getting into an accident due to poor visibility
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Old 09-24-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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I think your insurance company would agree. We have two Volvo wagons and they have lots of glass. My Ford Ranger is the tough one to back up sometimes as it came with dark tint on the rear windows.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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we have a 99 crv with 215k. gets us up the uphill curvy driveway every time.

we also have an 01 Ford Taurus big problem on the driveway. we are getting rid of it this week because winters around here are hard enough
with out a fwd car stuck, turned sideways, halfway up the driveway.

We may get a Forrester, but it has an antiquated 4 sp automatic. Kind of boring to drive. The passenger is seated way too low in front of dashboard.
I can't see the road from the driver position, front is too high.


The Kia Sportage is nice but has bad sight lines out the back with the tiny window. More fun to drive than the Forrester. KIas are now pretty expensive though.

As for the new CRV - I don't like the looks and the ground clearance actually looks lower than my 99.

Toyota RAV4? Why isn't anyone talking about them. Are they as good in the snow?

I wish honda never changed the 99 crv model. it was perfect.

no clear cut winner for me and I want a new car within two weeks.
Yeah, I liked the older CRVs too. I know it was just a car frame but it had a kind of mini jeep look to it. Honestly, I didn't even look at the new ones when were shopping. Looks aren't huge for me but I find that thing hideous.

I agree with you on the sportage. I thought it was a pretty nice ride but the ground clearance wasn't great and that rear window did seem small. The outback is smaller than I'd like there as well but its better. The real kicker is while its rated gas mileage seemed competitive its user reported seemed not that great.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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I meant 2013!
I figured. Thanks for the info.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Yeah, I liked the older CRVs too. I know it was just a car frame but it had a kind of mini jeep look to it. Honestly, I didn't even look at the new ones when were shopping. Looks aren't huge for me but I find that thing hideous.

I agree with you on the sportage. I thought it was a pretty nice ride but the ground clearance wasn't great and that rear window did seem small. The outback is smaller than I'd like there as well but its better. The real kicker is while its rated gas mileage seemed competitive its user reported seemed not that great.
I parked my 99 crv next to a new crv today and my clearance was considerably higher. The new crv is almost a small suv/minivan hybrid.
I'll probably get a Forrester or RAV4.

Why doesn't anyone talk about the RAv4 here? It's clearance is a little
higher than most.

If the Forrester had a new 6 speed automatic I'd go for it hands down. I suspect it have one will in the 2013 model, but I can't wait.

I'm not in love with any of them to be honest.

And another thing. It seems like no one is going with darker green anymore. I remember this happened in the mid 90's as well.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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You need a Subaru and a Thule rack on top, perhaps a kayak- You're good to go!
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:20 AM
 
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I parked my 99 crv next to a new crv today and my clearance was considerably higher. The new crv is almost a small suv/minivan hybrid.
I'll probably get a Forrester or RAV4.

Why doesn't anyone talk about the RAv4 here? It's clearance is a little
higher than most.

If the Forrester had a new 6 speed automatic I'd go for it hands down. I suspect it have one will in the 2013 model, but I can't wait.

I'm not in love with any of them to be honest.

And another thing. It seems like no one is going with darker green anymore. I remember this happened in the mid 90's as well.
I actually just really hate the local Toyota dealership so that's kind of why I don't talk about them. RAV4 seems less popular than the CRV to me...but maybe that's just because the ugly CRV sticks out more.

I'm sure the Forrester will be getting the CVT on the next redesign. The 4-speed is just lame at this point. I'm seeing auto makers putting 6 speeds in things pretty often these days, a 5 speed would start to be feeling old versus competitors these days but they still have the 4 speed?!
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