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Old 06-03-2012, 12:57 PM
 
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Have an itch for a change in the next couple of years, wondering whether VT would be it. Been looking at Burlington. I'm 34, single with no kids, I work as a massage therapist..I see there's no licensing for massage therapists in VT & read Burlington seems to have a holistic vibe to it, which I like.

Jersey born & bred. Not a fan of the heat & humidity during the summer (plus I lived 2 years in TX 10 years ago, heat is not for me lol), snow & cold I can deal with if it's manageable. I've never been to VT, have always wanted to visit. Might take a massage continuing ed class up there just to have an excuse to visit.

My life here has been 1 BR apt for $975/month in not the best but could be tons worse apt. complex. I have lived down the shore in Belmar in the past, hate the people but loved being so close to the beach, another reason Burlington appeals to me, being it's by the lake. I like the idea of being close enough to also experience parts of Canada. About 6 hours from NJ, so it's not as drastic in distance as it was when I lived down South. I really just want some kind of change & still be accessible to friends & family here. My future goals include wanting to be able to buy a 2BR condo, but if I go anywhere I'll probably rent for awhile first.

I'd appreciate any input, advice anyone has..how does the cost of living compare to NJ (what I saw so far it's not far off), any therapists out there that could give me some insight on how the massage industry is going, etc. I'm not a big going out kind of person, but I like being able to if the mood strikes (LOL where are your rock concert venues). Thank you so much!
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Rutland, VT
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If I was in my early 30s I would enjoy living in Burlington. Visiting and taking a class here sounds like a good idea. I also recommend getting treatments and talking to somatic therapists about their professional lives here.

My spouse and I have a bodywork practice in Rutland, so I can't speak to setting up a practice in Burlington. I can tell you there are more medical and spa businesses employing massage therapists in Burlington than in Rutland, in addition to independent practitioners. Burlington seems to have a lot of bodyworkers.

You should know that every few years AMTA tries to force mandatory massage licensing* into Vermont. So far, we've successfully scuttled those efforts, but it's possible one day they'll succeed.

* For those new to this topic,
in every state where MT licensing is the law, it has not protected clients from bad massages, nor prevented injuries or abuses, nor stopped prostitutes from posing as massage therapists. In both attempts to license Vermont's massage therapists that I fought against, Vermont's Office of Professional Regulation took testimony, reviewed the data, agreed with my assessment above, and recommended against mandatory licensing.

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Have an itch for a change in the next couple of years, wondering whether VT would be it. Been looking at Burlington. I'm 34, single with no kids, I work as a massage therapist..I see there's no licensing for massage therapists in VT & read Burlington seems to have a holistic vibe to it, which I like.

Jersey born & bred. Not a fan of the heat & humidity during the summer (plus I lived 2 years in TX 10 years ago, heat is not for me lol), snow & cold I can deal with if it's manageable. I've never been to VT, have always wanted to visit. Might take a massage continuing ed class up there just to have an excuse to visit.

My life here has been 1 BR apt for $975/month in not the best but could be tons worse apt. complex. I have lived down the shore in Belmar in the past, hate the people but loved being so close to the beach, another reason Burlington appeals to me, being it's by the lake. I like the idea of being close enough to also experience parts of Canada. About 6 hours from NJ, so it's not as drastic in distance as it was when I lived down South. I really just want some kind of change & still be accessible to friends & family here. My future goals include wanting to be able to buy a 2BR condo, but if I go anywhere I'll probably rent for awhile first.

I'd appreciate any input, advice anyone has..how does the cost of living compare to NJ (what I saw so far it's not far off), any therapists out there that could give me some insight on how the massage industry is going, etc. I'm not a big going out kind of person, but I like being able to if the mood strikes (LOL where are your rock concert venues). Thank you so much!
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Old 06-03-2012, 07:10 PM
 
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Thank you so much for the info! NJ is currently voluntary state certification (which I hold & is generally required to work at a spa & especially preferred in a medical setting), and has been in the process of rolling over to licensing for a few years now. I'm also certified in Neuromuscular Therapy (from the school I attended). Are you NCTMB? That seems to be the safeguard if you go out of state from where you went to school to a place where the mighty AMTA manages to get licensing on the table. I've been looking into CEU's in VT & you guys seem to have a lot of ART therapists & classes..I'm dying to get into that & it's just not available here.

I am definitely looking into what classes are available towards the end of the year, hopefully I can get up there to get a treatment & check out the locale! The more I read about Burlington the more I like it. It will just take some prep to do it the right way. Thank you again!!
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Rutland, VT
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That's great you have an NMT specialty. I imagine having an area of expertise helps you stand out in a sea of MTs. That's true in Vermont, too.

I've had NCTMB since '95. I keep up with CEs and renewals for the reasons you mentioned, plus why let it go. I was living in NH during my original training, and that's a mandatory licensing state. I've held NH and Maine licenses.

I offered to assist in creating a voluntary state cert process here. No one was interested -- it was forced licensing or nothing. And . . . nothing it is. I'm glad you mentioned NJ's status. If this comes up again in Vermont, I'll research what NJ is doing as a possibility.

Good luck and enjoy your journey. Let me know if there's anything I can help with "on the ground" from here.


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Thank you so much for the info! NJ is currently voluntary state certification (which I hold & is generally required to work at a spa & especially preferred in a medical setting), and has been in the process of rolling over to licensing for a few years now. I'm also certified in Neuromuscular Therapy (from the school I attended). Are you NCTMB? That seems to be the safeguard if you go out of state from where you went to school to a place where the mighty AMTA manages to get licensing on the table. I've been looking into CEU's in VT & you guys seem to have a lot of ART therapists & classes..I'm dying to get into that & it's just not available here.

I am definitely looking into what classes are available towards the end of the year, hopefully I can get up there to get a treatment & check out the locale! The more I read about Burlington the more I like it. It will just take some prep to do it the right way. Thank you again!!
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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Right now a lot of the NJ certification links are down, because the latest I heard, December will bring the beginning of the licensing process & they've been revamping the website..the currently certified therapists will be grandfathered in. NJ requires 500 hours from massage therapy school, the NCTMB if the therapist is from outside NJ (plus fingerprinting, background checks..it cost me almost $300 & at the time it was more important to have the state cert than NCTMB). I also did insurance massage sessions at my last job, which required certification. The governing board is the NJ Board of Nursing/Department of Consumer Affairs & certifications last 2 years & require 12 CEU's biannually. New York is 1000 hours & my school has a campus right over the Hudson, so they offer completer programs for therapists that wish to practice in NY. Personally I'm on the fence about licensing...here anyone can call themselves an MT, just not a CMT without a cert; there are so many seedy spas & the entire back of the classified sections are "massage" aka escort ads. I presently belong to ABMP, but previously AMTA & their NJ chapter page has a lot of info on our licensing process if you'd like to check it out for reference!

Feel free to check out my website; I have a very small practice outside of my regular job due to difficulty in marketing an in-home visit practice..but it will give you an idea of my modalities, I have been trying to get into a very competitive PTA program here which looks like it will take forever to complete because it's one of 3 offered in the state. I worked with a PT at my last job & I loved the work, the NMT comes in super handy! Home. I'm psyched to have gotten the opportunity to talk to you, Sheryl! Rutland is not far from where my friends visit Killington throughout the year, so I will look you up when I'm in the area!
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Rutland, VT
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Thanks for the info and your site URL. How fun that you already have friends in Killington.

Your PTA work and NMT sound wonderful.

Unfortunately, this:

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here anyone can call themselves an MT, just not a CMT without a cert; there are so many seedy spas & the entire back of the classified sections are "massage" aka escort ads
is equally true in mandatory licensing states like Florida, where the escorts and prostitutes include their MT license numbers in their Yellow Pages ads!

I, too, would love to end sleaze and poor practices in our wellness profession. But licensing fails to reduce those problems or improve the profession for MTs or clients. That's why VT's Office of Professional Regs recommended against licensing. At least voluntary cert provides a credential for those who want one without forcing hardship on those who don't.

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Right now a lot of the NJ certification links are down, because the latest I heard, December will bring the beginning of the licensing process & they've been revamping the website..the currently certified therapists will be grandfathered in. NJ requires 500 hours from massage therapy school, the NCTMB if the therapist is from outside NJ (plus fingerprinting, background checks..it cost me almost $300 & at the time it was more important to have the state cert than NCTMB). I also did insurance massage sessions at my last job, which required certification. The governing board is the NJ Board of Nursing/Department of Consumer Affairs & certifications last 2 years & require 12 CEU's biannually. New York is 1000 hours & my school has a campus right over the Hudson, so they offer completer programs for therapists that wish to practice in NY. Personally I'm on the fence about licensing...here anyone can call themselves an MT, just not a CMT without a cert; there are so many seedy spas & the entire back of the classified sections are "massage" aka escort ads. I presently belong to ABMP, but previously AMTA & their NJ chapter page has a lot of info on our licensing process if you'd like to check it out for reference!

Feel free to check out my website; I have a very small practice outside of my regular job due to difficulty in marketing an in-home visit practice..but it will give you an idea of my modalities, I have been trying to get into a very competitive PTA program here which looks like it will take forever to complete because it's one of 3 offered in the state. I worked with a PT at my last job & I loved the work, the NMT comes in super handy! Home. I'm psyched to have gotten the opportunity to talk to you, Sheryl! Rutland is not far from where my friends visit Killington throughout the year, so I will look you up when I'm in the area!
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