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Old 12-23-2012, 10:10 AM
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader View Post
Don't Jersey Vermont, as my bumper sticker says.
I was born and raised in Western Pennsylvania where every kid got a rifle for their 12th birthday and the gun culture was and still is as strong as anywhere in the nation.

There has to be some sensible restrictions on gun ownership. Despite all the arguments to the contrary, there is no reason people need enough firepower to start a war.

Need I remind everyone that up until 2008 and Heller, the controlling clause in the Second Amendment was, as with legal precedent since the Constitution was ratified, the FIRST clause:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state," was the controlling clause. Not the other way around. The USSC overturned years of legal precedent and look where we are today. 300,000,000 guns of every variety and more massacres every year because there are no limits or controls so guns are just that easy to procure for the so-called law abiding gun owner and the disturbed person looking to make a name for himself in the news.

I support gun ownership. Sensible, regulated gun ownership. Not the insane free for all we're living in now.

Edit to add:

Here's the crux of the problem:


Last edited by bobd04; 12-23-2012 at 10:11 AM.. Reason: Edit to add

Old 12-23-2012, 10:10 AM
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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With increasing rates of armed robbery, attempted murders in broad daylight and the police seen as not responding to protect the citizenry as they should be along with municipal politicians in a permanent state of denial that a growing drug and crime problem exists, I can't blame people for wanting to talk about it in an open forum.
Old 12-23-2012, 10:19 AM
Location: Vermont
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Thank you for keeping this civil so far. So...before it spirals out of control as these threads inevitably do, I ask that you please continue this discussion in one of the many gun control threads in the Politics and Other Controversies Forum.
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