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Old 11-12-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Live - VT, Work - MA
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How's Route 2 for safety in comparison......as that is another similar road in single lane, higher speed, only East/West, no divider etc.

They just dropped serious coin out by us to put a rumble strip in the middle of Rt 2........

That being said, I'm not in favor of heavier infrastructure.....at all....

ArcticHomesteader......last year I went to hit one of my favorite covers and found a friggin' school bus parked there with an entire field trip going on..... "Here kids watch the man with the dogs and the gun...."

We could rip up RT 91 at the 89 junction and be fine......
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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There's really no debate to be had here whether a guardrail makes a road safer(everything else being equal). It does. Anyone arguing otherwise lacks common sense or has an agenda The only debate is whether the lives lost/destroyed are worth the $ to put up a guardrail/do road improvements.

If you don't want a discussion, and have the answers already and aren't willing to bend on them, why in the world did you start the thread?
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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If you don't want a discussion, and have the answers already and aren't willing to bend on them, why in the world did you start the thread?
To give my opinion. It was never really a question.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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They just dropped serious coin out by us to put a rumble strip in the middle of Rt 2........

That being said, I'm not in favor of heavier infrastructure.....at all....

ArcticHomesteader......last year I went to hit one of my favorite covers and found a friggin' school bus parked there with an entire field trip going on..... "Here kids watch the man with the dogs and the gun...."

We could rip up RT 91 at the 89 junction and be fine......
Hmmm....see this is the real deal. People just want to live in the woods away from it all and are afraid improving roads will lead to increased population. It's always absurd to see people who have an agenda on this thread and many others around the internet making a false manipulative argument rather than just coming out and saying what the real deal is.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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To give my opinion. It was never really a question.
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Can someone please explain to me why route 9 has not been turned into a divided highway?
Fooled me. Not a rhetorical question as phrased.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:04 PM
 
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Fooled me. Not a rhetorical question as phrased.
Yes it clearly was intended to be a rhetorical question based on how strong my opinion was. I guess there's no voice inflection on the internet obviously. It was trying to make a statement.
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Live - VT, Work - MA
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Hmmm....see this is the real deal. People just want to live in the woods away from it all and are afraid improving roads will lead to increased population. It's always absurd to see people who have an agenda on this thread and many others around the internet making a false manipulative argument rather than just coming out and saying what the real deal is.
I assume you aren't thinking I have an agenda or making false manipulative arguments........if so I'll clarify any point I ever make on the interweb.

And by the way, improving roads has lead to development, not in an instant city type of way as jobs are the draw for real population growth. However easy access, especially in New England/Northeast, leads to increased second home development, resort development etc. If you have to drive another 2 hours from a highway ona dark windy road to get somewhere people are less likely to actually go there vs. a 10min ride from an interstate exit. It is what it is.....
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Old 11-12-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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How's Route 2 for safety in comparison......as that is another similar road in single lane, higher speed, only East/West, no divider etc.

They just dropped serious coin out by us to put a rumble strip in the middle of Rt 2........

That being said, I'm not in favor of heavier infrastructure.....at all....

ArcticHomesteader......last year I went to hit one of my favorite covers and found a friggin' school bus parked there with an entire field trip going on..... "Here kids watch the man with the dogs and the gun...."

We could rip up RT 91 at the 89 junction and be fine......
Yeah. I had the same experience late September in Ferdinand of all places. Figured going down US 2 from Maine I'd take a detour, drive up through Maidstone and then towards Island Pond and stop at a great place to hunt and be alone for a few hours in Ferdinand. Nope, tour bus and some class was there. Didn't see anything there but one boreal chickadee. The population of Ferdinand temporarily doubled that day.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Can someone please explain to me why route 9 has not been turned into a divided highway? The fatality statistics for that road are horrific.
Okay, I'll bite. What are the fatality statistics on Route 9?
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why pick out Rte 9?
The same situation exists in every sparsely populated area in every state with mountains.
Besides, since Vermont intends to put it's money into a universal type health care system, if an accident doesn't kill you, you'll at least know your medical bills will be covered.
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