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Old 01-08-2008, 08:37 AM
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I'm hoping a native Burlington resident can settle this weather issue.
I've read here that Burlington is 10 - 15 degrees warmer than the rest of the state due to the elevation, lake warming, and population density. Then I read that it's just as cold due to the winds that come off the lake.
How many weeks a year are below zero? Does the lake moisture give more snow or more sunless weeks of overcast?
My California native wife has a hard enough time with Wisconsin, so we're hesitant about taking a step further down the thermometer.
I looked into moving to Madison, WI. Burlington is about on par with Madison's weather, which is why I ultimately decided not to move. (I'm looking for somewhere warmer & sunnier/SAD-free.) However, Burlington is cloudier than Madison.

Based simply on watching the weather & comparing temperatures with friends in other towns, Burlington is usually warmer than Windsor, VT and many places in the Northeast Kingdom - sometimes by nearly 10'. The windchill can be very, very cold, but that happens in all the places I've visited in Vermont.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:47 AM
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Would someone please tell me how bad the drug scene is in comparison to other uni towns ~ why might it be worse? My daughter might be enrolling
A UVM fraternity just got caught dealing massive amounts of cocaine & was dissolved. Other than that, there are a lot of drugs because it's a pipeline between Canada & NYC. Not a lot of college students I met in my tenure were doing anything harder than a lot of pot, maybe an occasional hallucinogen, usual college stuff. Though I know that when I went to UVM, Greeks and other preppies were known for their coke habits. I wouldn't worry too much though, most of the meth & heroin problems aren't on campus.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:50 AM
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Yes...Plattsburg's Target is under construction and yes, Target Corp has been sniffing around greater Burlington for some time now. No applications/plans for development have been filed that I know of. I'm sure it's only a matter of time. Vermont's first Lowe's will be opening in a couple weeks in SB after a lengthy planning process/legal battle.
Rumor is that Target is going in on Susie Wilson Road. (Maybe the old Ames building?)
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:16 AM
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Lowe's is going in on Susie Wilson where Ames was....
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:26 AM
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Chittenden county which includes the cities of Burlington, South Burlington, and Essex Junction, while quaint, picturesque, and usually quiet, has increasingly serious traffic problems....
The results are an extremely high cost of living in combination with very low wages, and major traffic problems. An example of the latter is during the evening rush hour in Burlington, it often takes 1 hour to travel the 2 miles from downtown Burlington to the Interstate.

"Increasingly serious traffic problems"? Compared to what? Even when there's a slow-down, the traffic is still moving, a major change from DC area traffic!

The only time it would take an hour to travel from downtown to the interstate is the day all the new students are moving on campus. (Not as bad when they leave as it's generally more staggered.) Even near the holidays, it's not that bad.

At best, an exaggeration; at worst, a downright troll post.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:36 AM
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Lowe's is going in on Susie Wilson where Ames was....
Huh, maybe not the Ames building, but many of my coworkers have told me that Target is going in soon. Maybe they have inside info, I'll ask. All I can find is this: Target working on getting in all 50 states | Reuters Pretty noncommittal...
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See #3.

I know some folks....I'll see what I can find out about Target
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I checked with my coworker. She knows someone who was hired to help open a Target in VT, but is unsure how long it will take. They were looking at locations to build along Susie Wilson Rd, but it's still up in the air. It's not at the Ames building as I had originally guessed.
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"Increasingly serious traffic problems"? Compared to what? Even when there's a slow-down, the traffic is still moving, a major change from DC area traffic!

The only time it would take an hour to travel from downtown to the interstate is the day all the new students are moving on campus. (Not as bad when they leave as it's generally more staggered.) Even near the holidays, it's not that bad.

At best, an exaggeration; at worst, a downright troll post.

Burlington's traffic problem well exceeds its population. Of course it doesn't have the population of Boston or Washington DC, so naturally it wouldn't have "that kind" of gridlock. But for a city of it's size, it has visible traffic problems. When I lived in Phoenix 10 years ago, rush hour traffic moved faster than it does in Burlington. At all times of year I have experienced long jams trying to get to the Interstate. There really is only a single convenient way to get to the Interstate from downtown. But main street Burlington is not the only problem. Pine street and North Avenue can get pretty clogged up too.

In all fairness, the best way to gauge the traffic is experience it. Just watch out for all the jay walking college kids if you visit this time of year.

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