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I hope that Florida guy owns a gun and can travel as freely as any patriotic right-thinking American. Do we now feel more secure?
If you want to reduce gun homicide (non-cop) by 80%, simply pass a law that the first purchase will be responsible for the use of its weapon for its lifetime. 81% of homicdes are committed with a gun somebody else bought first and then sold, lost, gave away, pawned, whatever.
Making the purchaser wholly responsible for the use of a gun in its lifetime will screen out the idiots-- after the first dozen or so have gone to jail for life when the gun they got rid of years ago is used to kill someone. Guns will no longer be viewed as just another household appliance.
Those who continue to buy them will know that it is their sacred responsibility to never allow them into another's hands-- like King Arthur and his Excalibur. They will in effect become an adjunct of ATF, every one of them a weapons control inspector. They will buy the weapon they want to have for the rest of their life, and as many weapons as they want under current laws.
And at bottom, there is no constitutional right to traffic in personal firearms.
Great idea. Let's also bury the guns with the owner. By the way, if anyone wants to try to rid America of her guns this way, you'd need to bury every American gun owner who dies in 2019 with 446 guns.
Lemme know how that works out for you.
300M firearms / (327M US population x 25% gun owners x 0.00823 US annual death rate) = 446 guns per burial plot
Great idea. Let's also bury the guns with the owner. By the way, if anyone wants to try to rid America of her guns this way, you'd need to bury every American gun owner who dies in 2019 with 446 guns.
Lemme know how that works out for you.
300M firearms / (327M US population x 25% gun owners x 0.00823 US annual death rate) = 446 guns per burial plot
Might have to pay for a second casket for the guns. Do you put the gun casket above or below the body casket?
So maybe we should allow people to have muskets only - after all, the founders couldn't imagine assault rifles, tanks and atomic bombs, so clearly they were talking about muskets and shot guns. If someone wants to build their own musket from parts they buy at Home Depot, have at it. Just don't complain when it blows up in your face. [[end sarcasm]].
I don't see how the banning of plans has anything to do with banning firearms. If you live your life being afraid of all the "what ifs" in life, you will end up being a very paranoid person.
Of course the logical end of that line of reasoning would be the first amendment only applies to quill pens and hand operated printing presses. Which is why the SCOTUS strongly rejected that argument in 2008. The founders intended the rights to apply to current technology. Some of them were involved in developing new weapons. Benjamin Franklin invented a rather deadly hand grenade for example. Several of the founders lived long enough to see weapons like this too: https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2...intlock-rifle/
Why would you ban the dissemination of information if the end goal isn't a ban on guns?
When the Louisiana Purchase happened, Jefferson thought it would take 1,000 years to settle it. Seventy year later it was impossible to ride from Mexico to Canada without running into fences.
So, the Founders were, I think, pretty much concerned with the issues at hand rather than possible issues in the future when they wrote the Constitution.
No one in 1803 expected the railroads of the future or the Irish Potato Famine sending millions of immigrants running to our shores. Technology made settlement more rapid. Technology has changed but people haven't. There are still very dangerous humans out there who enjoy inflicting violent harm on others, and some of them find their way into the governments of every nation.
I hope that Florida guy owns a gun and can travel as freely as any patriotic right-thinking American. Do we now feel more secure?
If you want to reduce gun homicide (non-cop) by 80%, simply pass a law that the first purchase will be responsible for the use of its weapon for its lifetime. 81% of homicdes are committed with a gun somebody else bought first and then sold, lost, gave away, pawned, whatever.
Making the purchaser wholly responsible for the use of a gun in its lifetime will screen out the idiots-- after the first dozen or so have gone to jail for life when the gun they got rid of years ago is used to kill someone. Guns will no longer be viewed as just another household appliance.
Those who continue to buy them will know that it is their sacred responsibility to never allow them into another's hands-- like King Arthur and his Excalibur. They will in effect become an adjunct of ATF, every one of them a weapons control inspector. They will buy the weapon they want to have for the rest of their life, and as many weapons as they want under current laws.
And at bottom, there is no constitutional right to traffic in personal firearms.
How about making the gun manufacturers accountable? Or making the sellers accountable?
Ok guys....if you want to discuss general gun issues there are other places to do so. If this doesn't get back on to the original topic you know what will happen
Of course the logical end of that line of reasoning would be the first amendment only applies to quill pens and hand operated printing presses. Which is why the SCOTUS strongly rejected that argument in 2008. The founders intended the rights to apply to current technology. Some of them were involved in developing new weapons. Benjamin Franklin invented a rather deadly hand grenade for example. Several of the founders lived long enough to see weapons like this too: https://www.nrafamily.org/articles/2...intlock-rifle/
Why would you ban the dissemination of information if the end goal isn't a ban on guns?
Maybe you want to prevent a bunch of know-it-all jerks who don't know how to follow a set of directions from trying to build something that will blow up in their faces, or hurt their friends. There's a lot of stupid people out there.
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