[MRVphotog]

Further proof that Vermonters are smarter than everyone else.
Vermonters score above nation on ACTs: Times Argus Online

[OhBeeHave]

For VT:
http://www.act.org/news/data/08/pdf/states/Vermont.pdf

For a menu of states:
ACT National and State Scores for 2008: State Profile Reports

I looked at NY out of curiosity and only a little over 44,000 students took the ACT. Vermont a shade over 2,200. The number is hardly a blip when one considers just how many graduating seniors there were in 2008.

While it's good news, the small number of test takers in either state don't make it a huge splash.

I did learn that this test is a big test in the midwest and that only recently has it started gaining popularity in the east.

[mustmove]

That is a tiny percentage of high achieving white kids. Meaningless compared to the state of education in VT.

[quickdraw]

While not the highest scores in the nation, the good news is much of our dead weight is moving to Florida and Texas.

[mustmove]

Originally Posted by quickdraw

While not the highest scores in the nation, the good news is much of our dead weight is moving to Florida and Texas.

Couldn't agree more I might even find gainful employment there.

[flu189]

I love these little positive snippets which merely are released to try and bolster justification for the levels of spending. The irony is that the kids who take these tests and score well, a minority of the aggregate number of students as already pointed out, have intuitive intelligence anyway and would score well on any and all tests irregardless of where they they are. This was true thirty and forty years ago as well, but at least then the general curriculum had more emphasis on basic math, science, English, and history, so even average kids of that era who paid attention came out of school with better general knowledge. I see this everyday with the 18 to 20 something age cohort I deal with as they generally display lesser academic basic skills. I'm not at all trying to berate them, but my point is that we sure are not getting more bang for the buck which we are forced to spend ever increasing funds on. Then again, I also know that kids who have attentive and active parents at home also do better, and this also is not some newly discovered phenomena.

[MassVt]

....in the Northeast, at least not in the '70's , when I took the SAT, which was the only test that was offered. As another poster stated, the ACT is much bigger in the South and the Midwest.

[Alt Dach]

Originally Posted by mustmove

That is a tiny percentage of high achieving white kids. Meaningless compared to the state of education in VT.

Just so must move -just a total meaningless load of BS.

[flu189]

Originally Posted by Alt Dach

Just so must move -just a total meaningless load of BS.

Ah, but this BS will be essential to justify ever increasing spending on an already bloated and questionable system. So what if you can barely afford to heat your home, put food on the table, and pay for gas to get to work. Shut up and PAY UP comrade. The rubber band continues to stretch to mystical proportions and nobody knows when it will snap.

[mustmove]

Oh it'll snap. Anybody with any dignity or work ethic is leaving or planning to leave. It'll get ugly when all the productive tax payers are all gone-socialism never ends nicely.