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Old 08-24-2008, 06:22 PM
 
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Hello. My husband and I are seriously looking into relocating to Vermont. We donot know nearly as much as we should about the state, it's economy, the schools, weather, so on. We are from Texas and love the state, but want something different for our small family.

--Can anyone please update us on what things would really be like for a family that would be living on the middle-income scale?

--What is the average income per household?

--What is the average household's utilities like?

--If we were to relocate to Vermont, what sort of weather should we expect? (We don't use usually need anything heavier than a windbreaker here in the winter.) We would be moving sometime during mid-Febuary to late March.

--What shape is the public school system in? How many students per teacher for grade school levels such as kindergarten, first and second grade?

--What sort of things do we need to have on hand as soon as we arrive in Vermont?

--What are the pros and cons of living in Vermont compared to other states?
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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VT is expensive and high paying jobs are uncommon. Hard for anyone who has to work. Well off retirees(god bless them they earned it) and trust funders(better luck then me) do fine. Public schools have a very low teacher to student ratio however the state's performance on standardized tests is not so good to poor. On the other hand it is very pretty, just remember you can't eat the scenery or pay taxes with it and you are taxed higher for having a view. Very liberal so if you are of that persuasion you'll like it here. I don't have any personal experience but from what I've heard welfare/food/heating programs are very generous. Short answer for a middle income family, not on public assistance, your standard of living will be higher in TX.
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Old 08-24-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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One thing for sure is that Vermont is cold-seriously cold- in the winter.
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:25 AM
 
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Compared to Texas, Vermont is going to be a huge change. Much more expensive than Texas for real estate, property taxes and utilities. You really have to factor in the cost of heat for a good six months out of the year and the way oil prices are, it's a major chunk of a family's budget.

Good paying jobs are definitely hard to find...don't have experience with schools so can't tell you about that.

Regarding weather, you are in for a huge change - prepare to invest $$$ into winter clothes!!! Depending on where in VT you move to, snow on the ground for most of the winter and gray skies. Oh, and it's cold.

Luv80s used to post here - came from Texas and moved to Waterbury...you might want to do a search on some of her posts...if I recall correctly, they were thinking of moving back.

If you are looking for small towns or a small town vibe for your family, you might also consider areas like Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee...probably has a similar cost of living as Texas and not nearly as much culture shock when it comes to winter.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:24 AM
 
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Middle income in Vermont is misleading-Vermonters tend to be well off or minimun wage.Not much in between.To live in a way 50K would get u in TX probaly need at least 75 K in VT.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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Hi millerscow,
All I can say is research research research before moving up here. We are from Texas also and looking forward to going back someday. Vermont is not a bad place at all, its just not for everyone. It has its pros and cons like any other state. But eventually you get over the homesickness and adjust to life up here. I can't say much for the schools because mine aren't in school yet. As for the winter you get use to it. The cold doesn't bother me so much its just that it lasts for so long. I'm talking six months of wearing coats and boots and getting your kids all bundled up just so you can go to the grocery store and grab some milk. It gets tiring and depressing at times. But thats just me. But if you want a white Christmas you will definetly have one and let me tell you its gorgeous! Summer is short (for me!) and the fall is very pleasant. Leaves are starting to change colors now.

Still its a different way of life. I don't know if you are coming from a city or small town so that could factor in on how you adjust here.

Again, just do some research and try to take some trips up here to see if you really like it. Don't just do the touristy stuff but really go around to the stores, post office, etc. to get a feel for the place. And check out the real estate online before moving up here. Its pretty costly depending on where you want to live and how much house you want.

Good luck!
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Old 08-25-2008, 03:53 PM
 
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--Can anyone please update us on what things would really be like for a family that would be living on the middle-income scale?

You can live on this type, but it depends on where. As the old saying goes...Location Location Location. Any of the "trendy" places, and you'll need 2 incomes. Any of the out laying areas and its the same.

--What is the average income per household?

US Census Bureau, in 2000, the median household income was $38,150 compared to the national average of $42,148. In 2001, the median income for a family of four was $62,938 compared to the national average of $63,278.

--What is the average household's utilities like?

Utilites are rather expensive. They maybe the lowest in New England, but far from the lowest nation wide.

--If we were to relocate to Vermont, what sort of weather should we expect? (We don't use usually need anything heavier than a windbreaker here in the winter.) We would be moving sometime during mid-Febuary to late March.

Winter "starts" any where from late October to early December in average. The last last year snow started in early Nov. and lasted until April. The year before that was mild...with the snow not coming really until Feb., and then in was 36 inches or more in a little less than 2 weeks.

--What shape is the public school system in? How many students per teacher for grade school levels such as kindergarten, first and second grade?

Public schools are good. Student to teacher is low. But as was stated, the state does poorly on some standarized tests.
Also, expect very high school taxes! My school taxes are approx. 3/4 of my yearly bill.

--What sort of things do we need to have on hand as soon as we arrive in Vermont?

Pretty much anything you'd need to move anywhere...


--What are the pros and cons of living in Vermont compared to other states?

Pro's ---very safe and clean and quiet.
Con's--TAXES!! very little to choose from for shopping. You have to travel to any kind of discount store.


I am leaving the state in the next month (after being born and raised) to go to an area..with lower taxes, equally as "safe", more shopping and job ops. Vermont is great to visit and live if you can afford it.
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:58 PM
 
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Pro's - Very pretty, clean, safe, and quiet. Summers are gorgeous. Lakes are clean. Air is clear.

Cons - Quality housing is limited and expensive, taxes are high, roads are bad, job market is so-so, long cold winters can be isolating.
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: vt heading back to civilization !!!
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VT is expensive and high paying jobs are uncommon. Hard for anyone who has to work. Well off retirees(god bless them they earned it) and trust funders(better luck then me) do fine. Public schools have a very low teacher to student ratio however the state's performance on standardized tests is not so good to poor. On the other hand it is very pretty, just remember you can't eat the scenery or pay taxes with it and you are taxed higher for having a view. Very liberal so if you are of that persuasion you'll like it here. I don't have any personal experience but from what I've heard welfare/food/heating programs are very generous. Short answer for a middle income family, not on public assistance, your standard of living will be higher in TX.
I totally agree with mustmove.
Honestly I have known several families that moved from TX to VT and all of them are now gone back to TX.
On some extent TX and VT are opposites. Weather, politics, cost of living, jobs,taxes and home prices
I know Dallas a bit and there for 200k you will easily find a 4 bdrm, new home in a nice neighborhood. In Rutland area, which seems to be one of the most affordable places to live in Vt for something like that you will need at least 350k.
We are thinking of moving to Dallas from VT actually for the above mentioned reasons.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:55 PM
 
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I am 15 and I have been in Vermont since I was 10 months old. I don't have a job or know much about economy but I know enough from just growing up here!
PROS: Very safe, quiet, clean

CONS: Long winters, crappy education, extremely rural, roads seriously suck!
being a teenager, I definately want to go out, explore opportunities, and have fun, but I am stuck here. I personally find Vermont too quiet and crappy and I can't wait to begin my life somewhere else. I know people who love Vermont and don't want to leave, but most want to get out when they can.
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