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Old 08-01-2009, 03:42 PM
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The property that Wal-Mart wants to purchase and build a store on in the Wilderness (Virginia) IS NOT, and I repeat, IS NOT a part of any battlefield or military park! This property has been zone commerical for 30+ years. There are businesses already built in this area that are much closer to the battlefield than Wal-Mart would be. There is a 7-11, a WAWA, a Virginia liqour store, McDonalds, nail shops, a Subway, Wachovia Bank, a tobacco shop, a pharmacy, and a used car dealer plus other businesses that I can't recall at the moment. Wal-Mart would be a quarter mile from the highway and would not be visible from the battlefield. It also might be noted that NO PRESERVATION GROUPS HAVE EVER OFFERED TO BUY THIS PROPERTY. If this property was/is so important then why hasn't one of these preservationinst groups purchased this property a long time ago? If these groups want to control PRIVATE PROPERTY SHOULDN'T IT BE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT SOMEONE ELSES?
The majority of citizens of Orange County, VA, WANT THE WAL-MART TO BE BUILT! We need the jobs and the tax revenue this store would generate. Orange County, VA will benefit all around if this store is built.
Wal-Mart's Battle to Build a Store on a Historic Va. Battlefield - washingtonpost.com

Not quite correct. The proposed location lies outside the boundaries of the national park (directly across the road in fact), but not outside the boundaries of the actual battlefield. Don't try lying to a historian on this.

There's no reason the walmart has to be built in that precise spot. And those jobs you talk about are laughable. Modern wage slaves. Makes it so people can only afford to shop at walmart. Rather clever actually. This country needs real jobs not walmart jobs. Everyplace I know of walmarts being built, almost anyways, they typically get all sorts of tax breaks so they actually cost the taxpayers. The "jobs" cost taxpayers too because everyone else picks up the tab for their healthcare and any other public assistance they qualify for because they make so little.

Few people can afford to go around and buy up every bit of land like this. Property owners can show a bit of responsibility though and not destroy places of importance. Although Northern VA should perhaps be written off as another cesspool of concrete, mcmansions and retailers covering or consuming every square inch available. A human created wasteland.

Tell me, were you hired by walmart to go to various boards about this issue? Not the first time I've caught them doing so, the fact this is your first post strikes me as suspicious. I ran my own board once and I personally banned one such person.
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:59 PM
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Wal-Mart's Battle to Build a Store on a Historic Va. Battlefield - washingtonpost.com

Not quite correct. The proposed location lies outside the boundaries of the national park (directly across the road in fact), but not outside the boundaries of the actual battlefield. Don't try lying to a historian on this.

There's no reason the walmart has to be built in that precise spot. And those jobs you talk about are laughable. Modern wage slaves. Makes it so people can only afford to shop at walmart. Rather clever actually. This country needs real jobs not walmart jobs. Everyplace I know of walmarts being built, almost anyways, they typically get all sorts of tax breaks so they actually cost the taxpayers. The "jobs" cost taxpayers too because everyone else picks up the tab for their healthcare and any other public assistance they qualify for because they make so little.

Few people can afford to go around and buy up every bit of land like this. Property owners can show a bit of responsibility though and not destroy places of importance. Although Northern VA should perhaps be written off as another cesspool of concrete, mcmansions and retailers covering or consuming every square inch available. A human created wasteland.

Tell me, were you hired by walmart to go to various boards about this issue? Not the first time I've caught them doing so, the fact this is your first post strikes me as suspicious. I ran my own board once and I personally banned one such person.

Great article.

From it:
To commemorate the bloody struggle, portions of the Wilderness -- which is near Locust Grove, Va., in Orange County -- were set aside as a national military park. However, just 21 percent of the battlefield is permanently protected; other key areas are privately held and vulnerable to development.
This vulnerability became apparent when Wal-Mart Stores Inc. announced plans to build a 138,000-square-foot superstore on historically sensitive land directly across the road from the national park. The store would sit on a hill overlooking key parts of the battlefield, looming over a national treasure.
Preservationists are not opposed to Wal-Mart opening a superstore in the region. A coalition of national and local conservation groups has merely asked Wal-Mart to choose a different location. ...wrote that "the Wilderness is an indelible part of our history, its very ground hallowed by the American blood spilled there, and it cannot be moved. Surely Wal-Mart can identify a site that would meet its needs without changing the very character of the battlefield."

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impalacon fails to mention that there are already FOUR Walmarts in the area -- 3 in Fredericksburg, 1 in Culpepper.



It's not a necessity for people in the region, it's commericial saturation. Engulf and devour. impalacon listed a number of commercial enterprises in the area -- all corporations, no small businesses.

Walmart wages create a subservient set of Walmart shoppers - sort of the modern day equivalent of the company store.
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