U.S. Cities  

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Vermont
Register Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to City-Data.com forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with 700,000 other registered members. User profiles and some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your free account you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 15,000 posts/day about local topics and you will see fewer ads.

Get a detailed profile
Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
Reply


 
Old 02-03-2009, 05:46 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
85 posts, read 60,981 times
Reputation: 35
MTK1 is on a distinguished road
Default Vermont in Transition Report

This is a very interesting research report on VT from St. Michaels College. It covers many topics such as land use, crime, economy, affordability, etc. I suggest to the many people interested in relocating here give it a good read. The affordability section is quite an eye opener. Recent data from the report have VT as now being the 9th most expensive state in the U.S. to live.

St. Michael's Research Report: "Vermont in Transition" now available | Future of Vermont
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-03-2009, 05:51 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Vermont, grew up in Colorado and California
2,139 posts, read 471,876 times
Reputation: 2557
Summerz has a reputation beyond repute
Summerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond reputeSummerz has a reputation beyond repute
Default Well aware......

I'm hoping to relocate OUT of state someday soon lol.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-03-2009, 06:11 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
3 posts, read 1,490 times
Reputation: 15
biscuitdad is on a distinguished road
Default Ditching VT also!

I'm with you. I've had enough of the high property taxes, long winters and ridiculous roads.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-03-2009, 07:07 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: hinesburg, vt
1,573 posts, read 1,191,999 times
Reputation: 297
flu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the rough
This report basically underscores what we already know and what has been reported from other research and statistical reports. The future of Vermont basically revolves around the ability to attract people who already have earned the means be able to afford to live here. The new stimulus money will just delay and prolong by two years a major future budget crash. One thing is for sure that the COL will not get any lower. We will now witness an arm wrestle match between the governor and legislature. A shame though, that the governor still sticks by his mass layoff scheme to save $17 million out of a $4.2 billion total budget, but he is powerless to enact real cuts where they would make the most difference.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-03-2009, 07:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
653 posts, read 403,053 times
Reputation: 151
mustmove has a spectacular aura aboutmustmove has a spectacular aura aboutmustmove has a spectacular aura aboutmustmove has a spectacular aura about
Been saying for years that VT economy is a pyramid scheme of folks moving in with money earned elsewhere- some run out and some don't. Regardless wealth is consumed in VT not created. The low home foreclosure rate gets touted as evidence that things are ok buddy of mine was reading some banking reports that had VT as tops in bankruptcies. Happy to be gone.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-03-2009, 07:35 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North Central PA
85 posts, read 58,110 times
Reputation: 22
pabear is on a distinguished road
Thank you for posting this link. We plan to read it start to finish. This is part of doing the "homework".

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTK1 View Post
This is a very interesting research report on VT from St. Michaels College. It covers many topics such as land use, crime, economy, affordability, etc. I suggest to the many people interested in relocating here give it a good read. The affordability section is quite an eye opener. Recent data from the report have VT as now being the 9th most expensive state in the U.S. to live.

St. Michael's Research Report: "Vermont in Transition" now available | Future of Vermont
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2009, 04:19 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
109 posts, read 49,902 times
Reputation: 96
ex-springfielder will become famous soon enoughex-springfielder will become famous soon enough
Vermont has been in decline since the administration of Madeline Kunin and her ideas of turning Vermont into a national park. Vermont has been totally anti business, preventing new companies from moving in and forcing existing companies to move and coupled with the decrease in good paying manufacturing jobs throughout the country due to foreign competition has hurt the middle class deeply. I was born in Vermont and lived there for over fifty years but last year after going through yet another layoff at my manufacturing job I decided to look elsewhere and moved. Vermont offers nothing to companies not involved in tourism and uses Act 250 as the vehicle to control who is allowed in and where. This has changed vermonts economy from manufacturing to low paying service jobs. I raised three sons, all are college graduates and all are employed in NH. Vermont is becoming a state with a shrinking middle class who has to bear the tax burden to support the sate while the poor class grows and brings the associated crime with it. Vermont is far from the state it once was and unless you're very well off financially and have your heart set on Vermont I'd look elsewhere.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2009, 10:38 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: hinesburg, vt
1,573 posts, read 1,191,999 times
Reputation: 297
flu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the roughflu189 is a jewel in the rough
The reference to college education is interesting. Vermont likes to boast it's demographic statistic of having such a high ratio of college educated population. What good is it when a significant proportion of young or middle aged college degree holders are perpetually underemployed. My family of five currently here in Vermont (including a daughter-in-law) range from age 22 to 48 and we collectively have eight degrees from associate, bachelors, to a masters. Totally useless in securing commensurate employment. We have all decided that despite the national picture being poor, there is a greater liklihood putting our education to actual use elsewhere so now we are basically focusing on a two year transition to prepare to move. It would be sooner, but my upcoming deployment kind of throws a wrench into the gears time wise, but it will provide the economic "stimulus" (I'm really starting to loath this word) to make it happen. Reluctantly we have come to the conclusion that even when things improve that jobs, income, and cost of living factors will keep us standing still here. On the other hand, should conditions worsen over a prolonged period then we need to be able to live somewhere each and every dollar can be stretched further.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2009, 10:45 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
866 posts, read 616,272 times
Reputation: 242
quickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by biscuitdad View Post
I'm with you. I've had enough of the high property taxes, long winters and ridiculous roads.
Me too. I'm also sick of the lack of congestion, natural beauty, and cooler summers. Let's go!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-04-2009, 10:47 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
866 posts, read 616,272 times
Reputation: 242
quickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura aboutquickdraw has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-springfielder View Post
I was born in Vermont and lived there for over fifty years...
These never end well
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.



Reply


Quick Reply
Message:

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads


Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Vermont

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:51 AM.

Copyright © 2005-2009, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 - Top