[Ellwood]

Originally Posted by Lilybeans

Not me. Florida is hot and miserable from May through November. I wouldn't mnd being here in January and February.

I totally agree with you Lilybeans! Two weeks this winter in FL and I couldn't wait to get back north! It was humid in March! The land is flat, brown and dry. Bugs and critters! The only beauty is the ocean. Give me the snow and cold and beauty of the mountains!

[ECG]

Originally Posted by Lilybeans

The heat, the humidity, the crowds, the traffic, the crime, the transient nature of the population, the development, the strip malls, the roads, the stress, the threat of hurricanes, the illegals everywhere, the overall quality of life. That about does it.

I agree with you, I am also sick of Florida...I moved to Florida from New Jersey..



But I would like to know when you speak of illegals everywhere, how do you know they are illegals or do you just group all Spanish speakers as being Illegals??

I am just curious about that part.

[Lilybeans]

Originally Posted by ECG1951

I agree with you, I am also sick of Florida...I moved to Florida from New Jersey..



But I would like to know when you speak of illegals everywhere, how do you know they are illegals or do you just group all Spanish speakers as being Illegals??

I am just curious about that part.

I know. I see them in my line of work.

[zack64]

Travel tip; for those wanting to get out of Florida and up to Vermont, perhaps for part of the year -
Suggest Stowe or Wilmington area. Both locations will put you close to airports with decent airfares to FL without traveling several hours - Stowe close to Burlington with Jet Blue and Wlimington not terribly far from Bradley International in CT., with cheap airfare on SW to Florida

[RUBIES77]

Originally Posted by Lilybeans

Not me. Florida is hot and miserable from May through November. I wouldn't mnd being here in January and February.

Forget about January. I am from NYC and have come here by Orlando, to warm up. Well, this area freezes a lot, and I still have to use my winter coat with a hood. I does not warm up until after February 15th !!!!!!!! and then you will suffocate !!!!!!!

[History Rules]

Florida ranks number 50 in the country for places I would consider living. I used to live there and here are its highlights
1) Ugliest land on earth, except for the beach (an annual beach vacation cures that).
2) Total transient population
3) Ugliest developement and architecture (no set back laws, flourescent signs and cookie cutter houses.
4) No history or identity
5) Worst climate on earth-yeah it is sunny but when I lived there I never went outside and you never ever get a break because the nights are oppressive. In New England you can have nice days 12 months a year, in Florida once the heat hits you never ever get a break.
6) Your totally trapped-You can't drive anywhere, everywhere you drive, it is more flat, ugly and congested mess
7) The few months its nice enough to go outdoors it is flooded with Northerners. Also the nicest days are the shortest days of the year, i.e. when it is nice enough to do something outside it gets dark at 5PM, so you can never sit outside in the light in comfort absent a few days all year. In New England the nicest days are the longest days.
The poster who claims there are only a few humid months in florida is just flat wrong. When I lived there I used my air conditioning every months of the year, it was muggy and disgusting several times on Christmas.

[Sherylcatmom]

Originally Posted by History Rules

4) No history or identity

It's true that Florida's historical record, artifacts, and structures are way newer than New England's -- and don't even bother comparing Florida's "antiquities" with Europe or the Middle East. But I find Florida's natural and cultural historical sites very engaging. Field trips and family visits to these sites were my favorite part of growing up there. (Or maybe my favorite part was all the wonderful international restaurants. Hmm, a toss up.)

Originally Posted by History Rules

5) Worst climate on earth-yeah it is sunny but when I lived there I never went outside and you never ever get a break because the nights are oppressive. In New England you can have nice days 12 months a year, in Florida once the heat hits you never ever get a break.

This is exactly how I feel about Florida's climate. For people who are comfortable in humid heat, it's probably fine. Maybe they even prefer it.

In Florida, I felt trapped indoors almost all year long. I was almost never comfortable outdoors there, day or night. I remember going out dancing with friends in Ft. Lauderdale. We'd get hot, go down to the beach, strip down, get in the ocean, and the water was hot. Blech.

I never feel that way in Vermont -- except when it gets hot and humid.

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by Sherylcatmom

It's true that Florida's historical record, artifacts, and structures are way newer than New England's -- and don't even bother comparing Florida's "antiquities" with Europe or the Middle East. But I find Florida's natural and cultural historical sites very engaging. Field trips and family visits to these sites were my favorite part of growing up there. (Or maybe my favorite part was all the wonderful international restaurants. Hmm, a toss up.)

*pssst* St Augustine -- Nation's Oldest City
"Saint Augustine Florida is the oldest European city in the United States. The area was first visited by Ponce de Leon in 1513, but it was Juan Menendez de Aviles who established the first settlement, almost half a century before the first English settlers landed at Jamestown. St. Augustine grew to become the Spanish center of power in North America for almost 200 years. "

I am not a FL fan, but we have to concede that FL has had a head start on New England. Your assessment about the natural and cultural historical sites is true. It's in such contrast to the north east.

[gentlearts]

Oh, kiddo, I know what you mean. My friend lives in Northport and can't wait to sell her house and move back to Ohio. Vermont-Ohio, same difference...seasons, greenery, less humidity. We can all understand the lure of the sun in the winter and the beach, but truly, my friend has been to the beach once or twice in five years, and she leaves Ohio sobbing after every visit.

[Sherylcatmom]

Originally Posted by OhBeeHave

*pssst* St Augustine -- Nation's Oldest City
"Saint Augustine Florida is the oldest European city in the United States.

I LOVE St. Augustine. I also LOVE Key West, but only in the off season. Both for the history and culture. There are bright spots like that all over Florida. Tarpon Springs is like a small Greek colony. And individual sites worth visiting are everywhere.