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Old 08-12-2009, 11:08 AM
 
Location: hinesburg, vt
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Slightly of the topic, but with full consideration of your post, how do the residents of the state go about disciplining themselves to lower educational spending? Where exactly does the $340 million come from? Part of the problem lies with strong teachers union, Vermont-NEA, looking out for what's best for it's members (more money) as opposed to where the money is coming from.

Some district residents rubber stamp the budgets each year following the 'It's for the kids' rhetoric.
Educational acts need to be revisited.
School districts need to be merged into county districts in order to reduce duplication of services and to increase purchasing power.

Back to GMC -- are corporations liable for school taxes in VT?
Your analysis is right on point! The educrats and their staunch puppets within the Vermont legislature will doom this this state from recovery and chance of prosperity. The true fact is that the cult of voters who continue to support the current system despite the obvious future implications are in effect driving people and needed business out of the state. We will get to the point where federal outside play money as well as the ability to continue to tax our citizens and businesses will reach a saturation point which in my belief we have already gotten to. Just look at the property prebate, rebate, or whatever flavor they are calling it now. The state using taxpayer funds refunds an amount to you based upon your income, but that refund must be made up by some other revenue source, namely other taxpayers. The bottom line is that it is a shell game duping folks into thinking they are getting a bargain by getting a reduction on their taxes. The reality is that the taxes are set way too high and your rebate must be made up by someone else. Then of course each and every education contract continues to increase in costs such as wages and benefits in spite of the fact that the majority of the folks who are tasked to pay for this are bringing in less or outright losing their jobs. It is unfortunate that this apparatus cannot be brought under control and the only remedy at the present is for folks to give up. pack up, and get out when the burden reaches flashpoint.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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Some schools are getting paid by the federal gov't because they have 10 or less children in a classroom. Our elementary school is getting over $50,000. a year!! Why would they want to consolidate?
Governor Douglas repeatedly stated in his speeches that he didn't want Vermonters taxes to go up for education. Still the majority of school budgets passed. To add salt to the wound, the teachers in one of the high schools were all given $50.00 gift certificates to boost their morale!! What do they have to feel bad about!!
If anyone feels their taxes are too high, sit down with one of the Listers and find out how they came up with their figures. I did and my taxes were cut in half!!
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Old 08-14-2009, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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They are not leaving Vermont.
Green Mountain Coffee Moving, But Not Far - News Story - WPTZ Plattsburgh (http://www.wptz.com/news/20403262/detail.html - broken link)
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Old 08-15-2009, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Winter Springs, FL
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The headquarters may not be going, but they say nothing about manufacturing. That adds up to about 800 jobs. Vermont doesn’t have a good national reputation for being business-friendly and the state’s incentive system is ineffective.
My guess and it's only a guess, is that the company has space available in Boston, Seattle and Tennessee(they are already building a massive plant out of state) — locations acquired through recent acquisitions and expansions. They will probably move most or all their manufacturing out of state and keep their corporate headquarters here. Manufacturing facilities are often moved closer to emerging markets. Tax codes and work force availability are another benefit outside of the state.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Coffee roasters to stay in Vermont | burlingtonfreepress.com | The Burlington Free Press

Manufacturing = Williston
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Bangor Maine
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I guess they will have to change the name of the company.. I'm not surprized they are not doing well. I used to buy their coffee but when it went up to $10.99 a lb that was a bit too much for me.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Rutland, VT
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I'm not surprized they are not doing well.
Coffee roasters to stay in Vermont | burlingtonfreepress.com | The Burlington Free Press

"Profits have soared at Green Mountain Coffee. The stock split 3-for-2 and has more than doubled in price since the start of year. Earnings for the roaster’s most recent quarter were $14.1 million, more than double the $6.3 million earned in the same quarter last year. Net sales for the third quarter were $191 million, compared with $118 million last year."
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Rutland, VT
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I guess they will have to change the name of the company..
Coffee roasters to stay in Vermont | burlingtonfreepress.com | The Burlington Free Press

"Green Mountain Coffee Roasters is moving its corporate headquarters from Waterbury, but the company is staying in Vermont."

"It is unclear what the headcount will be after the headquarters and some manufacturing operations shift to Chittenden County."
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Winter Springs, FL
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I saw that, but the key word is "some".
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Coffee City | New owner moves Tully's Coffee roasting plant to Sumner | Seattle Times Newspaper

The view from the left coast.

Some GMC employees might be heading to WA state.

"Green Mountain has offered jobs in Sumner to most of the roughly 60 people who work at the current roasting plant, said Jon Wettstein, Green Mountain's vice president of supply chain operations. A handful of its Vermont employees will move here, and the company expects to hire 60 more workers in Sumner as the plant grows over the next 18 months.
The 197,800-square-foot space in Sumner is more than double the size of the existing Tully's plant. It's also on one level, which Wettstein said will be an improvement from the Seattle layout. Green Mountain will use it to roast Tully's and other brands of coffee that it owns.
"Our investment in a new, modern site in Sumner will complement our existing facilities in our home state of Vermont and in Knox County, Tennessee," Wettstein said."

What exactly is a complement in this case? Shifting a portion of the roasting operations to a larger plant out west?

From the Sherylcatmom's link:
"Green Mountain Coffee Roasters Inc. also intends to relocate some “manufacturing capabilities” to a Williston site. That facility should be open within the next two months, Yusen said."

"In all, Green Mountain Coffee employs 1,505 people, 967 of whom are based in Vermont, Yusen said. The company also has facilities in Reading, Mass.; Knoxville, Tenn.; and greater Seattle."
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