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Old 09-08-2009, 11:52 AM
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Default Just move and see what happens

that is what my wife and i are thinking. it's always so hard to tell if we've just got our "greener pastures vermont goggles" on when we go visit.

every year we are always thinking "maybe we would love it in vt" but we never get around to doing anything about it. this year we are thinking why not just go for it? i don't think you will ever really get the true feel of a place unless you embed yourself into it.

what we are looking for are basically more community oriented and like minded people, which for us comes down to spending more time outside with the dog, hiking, biking, swimming and eating good healthy (particularly plants) food.

i am not sure how we will do in the winter but only one way to find out?

looking at apt's or houses , 1-2 bedroom it seems like it ranges anywhere from $600 - $900 including or not including utils. these are around sugarbush. maybe mrvphotog has some suggestions in this area?

job wise, i would keep my telecommuting job. we would also try to obtain local "real life" jobs in addition to this.

what else
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:49 PM
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There are a fair amount of places for sale or rent. You can buy a small 1br condo at the Sugarbush Vermont Real Estate - Johnson Real Estate Group Ltd VT - Sugarbush Realty for cheap. Nice restaurant on site, pool, hot tub and on the free ski bus route.

Getting a part-time job at the Bush for the winter is about as easy as breathing. Valley offers lots of places for just about any outdoor activity. We have our own phone company in the valley so DSL is available.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:31 PM
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30k for a condo!! pretty crazy. my guess is the kitchen is just about non existent... tough for people who like to eat in almost always.

we'd probably rent for at least a year. we unfortunately own a house here in nj and might rent that out while we figure out vt.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:57 PM
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If you move here without a job, you will leave quickly.
Oops. Guess you have one.

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Yeah, i think it would be tough to move without a job.

i did some math and figured between my wife and i we'd need about 35-40k gross to be "comfortable" renting (my interpretation I guess.... includes some breathing room and retirement contribution) depending on whether or not health insurance is paid for (this is my estimating requirements if i QUIT my job).

does anyone know how american flatbread pays for PT work?

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Old 09-08-2009, 07:52 PM
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does anyone know how american flatbread pays for PT work?
I'm going to guess around $9/hr to start. Check it out
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:34 PM
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i am not sure how we will do in the winter but only one way to find out?


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> December 8 6:00 PM
> It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down
> from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

December 9
> We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the whole world? Moving here was the best idea I've > ever had! Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life!

> December 12
> The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment! My neighbor tells me not to worry- we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on
Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. I don't think that's possible. Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

> December 14
> Snow, lovely snow! 8 inches last night. The temperature dropped to-20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed
up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish I wouldn't huff and puff so.

> December 15
> 20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

> December 16
Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, which I think was very cruel.

> December 17
> Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. God I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

> December 20
> Electricity is back on, but had another 14 inches of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling! Took all day. The damn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow blower and they're out.. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

> December 22
> Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white **** fell today, and it's so cold, it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to ****. By the time I got undressed, pissed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel. Tried to
hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter, but he says he's too busy. I think the ******* is lying.

> December 23
> Only 2 inches of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she, nuts?!! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.

> December 24
> 6 inches - Snow packed so hard by snowplow, I broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the son of a ***** who drives that snow
> plow, I'll drag him through the snow by his balls and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
> shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.

> December 25
> Merry f---ing Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight - Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God, I hate the snow!
> Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's a fricking idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wonderful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.

> December 26
> Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

> December 27
> Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze; plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me $1,400 to replace all my pipes.

> December 28
> Warmed up to above-20. Still snowed in. The ***** is driving me crazy!!!

> December 29
> 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

> December 30
> Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver, and now he is suing me for a million dollars, not only for the beating I gave him, but also for trying to shove the
> broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. Nine more inches predicted.

> December 31
> I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

> January 8
> Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?

Annd the list goes on and on lol.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:41 PM
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Default What a great post!!!!!!!

That was classic stuff! Very reminiscent of "The Shinning" but I'm sure that was intentional. You're a good writer, and made your point in a very humorous way. Once I was showing my sister a photo of a beautiful house in upstate NY that was for sale, and was listing the amenities, and she asked, "Does it come with defibrillator paddles?"
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Ha ha ha...that was awesome. Funny how you didn't even hit February and March.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:55 AM
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If you move here without a job, you will leave quickly.
Oops. Guess you have one.
Yep, true. We moved without jobs from NY. Hubby got one in a few weeks (he moved on to another a month later, but it's nights).

Me....well, I had a temp job that lasted 6 months. Nothing before and nothing after. It's very depressing but if we move (which may happen) it will be due to lack of jobs. I dream of a place I can work and have a normal life, a pay check every week, not sit here watching my neighbors go to work while I keep wondering what the hell is wrong with me.

Too many people here are underemployed. If that doesn't bother you then try working in a store. Be prepared to 'suck up' to tourists. Watch others play where you live.
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