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Old 09-13-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: IN
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This is thread has turned very depressing.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:48 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Yeah it is depressing. I like trees. I've had butternuts and american chestnuts (not the chinese chestnuts) to eat, they're delicious, but very uncommon because most of the trees die before giving a good nut crop now. I couldn't imagine maple syrup not being readily available if the maples get wiped out that way. And most of my tool handles are ash. Trees are important economically. The state wouldn't be the same without all these trees.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Insects killing Vt. trees: Rutland Herald Online

Keep an eye out for this, anyone who spends time outside. This could become a major, major problem if they don't find a way to control it. I haven't seen any yet but I'll be keeping my eyes open...

Here's what they look like: Pest Alert - Hemlock Woolly Adelgid
On LI the arborists spray hemlock oil, which appears to be effective in my yard. I don't see how it would work on the vast properties in rural parts of the state, but it would probably work well within town locations where the yards are smaller.
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Old 09-14-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Does anyone know if there was a paper beech blight? All the paper beech on my property died, and up the road a few miles the once breathtaking stand of paper beech have also met with the same fate. It is heart-breaking to see them dead and falling.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:05 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Does anyone know if there was a paper beech blight? All the paper beech on my property died, and up the road a few miles the once breathtaking stand of paper beech have also met with the same fate. It is heart-breaking to see them dead and falling.
Could have been beech bark disease, or beech blight aphid. If it was beech blight aphid, that breaks out now and then but usually goes away quickly. Beech bark disease is much more serious and a bigger threat to the trees...

Beech Bark Disease - FIDL

http://www.umassgreeninfo.org/fact_s...ight_aphid.pdf
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:11 PM
 
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Wink Yes, we can

I'm not sure about beetles affecting Vermont, but it is possible to successfully spray trees against Mountain Pine Bettle (MPB). However this involves the application of toxic chemicals, not otherwise good for you or your garden, and it must be done annually, or at least until these beetles no longer a threat. While possible for a few select trees, in the entirety of forests it is not practically possible.

I entirely agree that this is a tragic phenomenon. But not, however, one we have no control over. These beetles are a natural part of an ecosystem no longer in balance, thus their severe impact now, where before they merely served to keep all in order. It is not so much these beetles we need to address, but ourselves.

This December there will be an international conference in Copenhagen, Denmark concerning global climate change. What is decided there, or not, may well mark the future course of mankind for at least the next several decades. Virtually every government on this planet, save a few island nations which are expected to disappear due rising sea levels, are paying little more than lip service to this problem.

Australia, for instance, says that with great effort it might stabilize its CO2 output to 450ppm, professing this to be a noble effort. Absolute rubbish, as its scientists and others know full well levels shouldn't exceed 350ppm, and surely well less than that. This nation relies heavily on extractive industries for its economic well being, with coal shipped to China being one of the largest. Coal is one of the biggest contributors to overall GHG levels. As I recall, Australia relies on coal for over 80% of its electricity. It is also, not coincidentally, suffering abnormally large wildfires, and widespread drought. But it is hardly alone.

The United States relies on coal for about 50% of its electricity. Most every nation, particularly the wealthy industrialized ones, are unwilling to address this problem seriously because the necessary transition will not be easy. They fear widespread economic disruption. But that is exactly what they will get down the road, and relatively soon, and far worse, if nothing is done.

We, as citizens of this planet, have a choice in how we live within and with it. Governments are but our creation, the high and powerful only allowed such position through our tacit agreement. To the extent we ruin our environment, our forests, and the habitat and home of every other living being on this planet, we individually bear responsibility. We do have the option, and we can do far better.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:40 PM
 
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I agree with all of those points.
WI and MI are losing all ash trees to the ash borer that came in with pallets from China. "Free Trade" is an utter disaster in EVERY respect !
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