[chaz longue]

I've mentioned this but it seems I mentioned it in another thread.

My best friend has been in Seattle for a couple of decades. He's been itching to move to VT for - a couple of decades. He's finally jumped on a place and has it under contract (I'm a Realtor).

In his case, it's not that he finds Seattle so bad. In fact he rather likes it. It's just that he likes VT more and appreciates as time passes how different The Burlington Area is from most of the rest of the country.

[christoforest]

The Seattle thing is real Veggiecook, believe your impressions. There is usually a kernel of truth in many generalizations, of course there are always exceptions. The Seattle social energy is downnnnnnnn!!!!!!!! And the endless clearcuts, and clouds, yuck!!!!!!!!

[scirocco22]

Nah, still don't buy it. Perhaps endless clearcuts and definitely clouds. And dampness.

Social energy downnnnnnnn?

Nah. If you've lived there as long as I did, you'll find that's not the case. It's almost vibrant ...some may have to turn over some rocks and to some it's very evident. You just haven't spent enough time there.

Thanks.

--'rocco

[christoforest]

16 years was more than enough

[scirocco22]

Eh, ok, we agree to disagree.

I lived there more than 3 times longer than you and I had to move away but mainly because of the climate and not because of anything to do with social interaction issues.


Thanks.

--'rocco

[veggiecook]

Originally Posted by caravaners

......ask a lot. You might learn something from the "old white people" in Vermont. You want but cant find friends that want you hanging out and that could be because their lives are full or they don't buy into your left leaning slant. By the way it appears black folks in ever larger numbers are turning away from the plantation politics of Hillary and Al Sharpton. You would be suprised to discover that it is in fact the REPUBLICAN party that is totally inclusive and doesn't see fellow Americans as a collection of needy parts with various minority lables attached. Just a thought.

Let me clarify there is nothing wrong with middle aged white people---I am not trying to avoid that part of the population. I know there is a lot I can learn from anyone, regardless of where I live. I grew up in middle class white suburbs of CT, 98% roman catholic, mostly polish and italian. I moved to Seattle and it is much more diverse. I would like to seek some diversity and open-mindedness in the next place I move to, while trying to avoid the the things I don't like about Seattle. I may be left-leaning but I'm openminded and try not to judge people on their lifestyles and choices. I am just looking for a place where I can feel more supported/respected of my lifestyle. I plan on having a family in a few years and it would be nice to find a town that has a decent percentage of the population in their late 20's with children that I can relate with. Does that exist in VT? Obviously, part of the population includes other ages, but I have a friend living in Northfield for the past few years and he's complained that he has a really hard time making friends because everyone is so much older than him and do not express an interest in friendship.

[ab8mi]

Probably a college town in VT may be to your liking as this tends to make the population age a little more diverse. I myself am 44 and have and enjoy friends in many age categories. Some of that may be due to the fact that we have four boys ages 22, 16, 9 and 19 months.

One thing you will find in VT is that although there is a very large white population here, they are for the most part non-judgmental and accepting of peoples diversity.

[veggiecook]

My issue with the Seattle social scene: moving here was hard, people were friendly to a point, but never enough to develop a close friendship, the kind where you count on each other, share feelings etc. I've noticed the Seattle natives (born and raised in Seattle) grew up with a set group of friends and do not seek to add to their group. Of course I'm generalizing, but a number of people have shared this sentiment with me. The few friends I've made out here are originally from the east coast. Generalizations exist for a reason, and the Seattle Times wouldn't print a whole article about how hard it is to make friends and be part of a community in this city if it wasn't somewhat true.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pac...213/cover.html

I've loved living here for the trees, water, mountains, eco-consciousness, but there are other reasons I must go that include the social dis-ease. I just don't belong in Seattle. It's great for some people, I'm just trying to find my niche.

[scirocco22]

*shakes head*

Ok, I give up. I'm a Seattle native and I don't understand all this at all. I'm obviously not going to convince you, veggiecook, or anybody else that I have a real problem believing those of you who think this way.

*sinks slowly into the sunset*


Thanks.

--'rocco

[perfectsaralee]

Veggie,

I've been in Vermont for 30 years and the "old" people around here have taught me a thing or two. Tons of bugs, humidity and clouds but we are neat people and easy to get along with. I wish you good luck in your search for a perfect life...