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So after trying out different aspect ratios in post, one that looks good to me is 2.48:1. It is not an aspect ratio that has been used before so is it possible to get this aspect ratio on a camera monitor, to shoot in, since it's a custom one?
Oh okay. I mean I could go with the standard 2.39:1 but I feel that there are better ones for me to tell the story. What kind of headaches would it create?
Oh okay. I mean I could go with the standard 2.39:1 but I feel that there are better ones for me to tell the story. What kind of headaches would it create?
The one we are discussing here for starters. I'm not up on Blu-Ray authoring but is it possible to set custom aspect like that? When I say set it I mean set the aspect flag to custom size. I know you can letterbox the video itself on a 16:9 matte or other standard aspect but that will require renecodong etc.
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What do you mean by adjusting the 'display area'?
Not sure if applies to the equipment you are using but many monitors have an adjustment for the display area. If there is menu button for the monitor it will be found in there. If you can reduce the horizontal display area you can manually letterbox it.
Well I haven't been able to find a monitor that can give me anything other than 16:9 aspect ratio.
As for DVD authoring I think you can, instead of the DVD program being say 1920x1080, you just type in that you want it to be 1920x802 pixels, and it will do that, which is equivalent to 2.39:1
As for DVD authoring I think you can, instead of the DVD program being say 1920x1080, you just type in that you want it to be 1920x802 pixels
Now you are in my wheelhouse. The resolution of a compliant authored DVD will always be 720*480 (assuming NTSC), this is neither 4:3 or 16:9. There is other resolutions but they are smaller. On a DV camcorder the resolution is also 720*480 whther it's 4:3 or 16:9. If you look at frame of 16:9 that has not been adjusted for dispaly people will tall be and gangly and things like circles will have egg shape. There is flag set in the video that will tell players or your editor this is 16:9 video and it will adjust the aspect appropriately for display.
While on the topic not sure how this would apply to modern camcorders but most SD camcorders were designed for 4:3. When you use the camera option for 16:9 it does this by reducing the CCD range which reduces the effective resolution. To get the highest effective resolution you use an anamorphic lens and set the camera mode to 4:3. The flag can be changed to 16:9 later.
Getting back to DVD the aspect of this 720*480 video is set by a flag on the DVD which can be 4:3 or 16:9. The DVD player or your software can read this flag and it will letterbox or pillarbox it based on your output options. If you have set your player to display on a 4:3 TV when playing a 16:9 video it adds the black bars top and bottom, when displaying a 4:3 video on 16:9 TV it will add them left and right. The black bars are not part of the video itself but added by the player.
If you were going to use an aspect wider than 16:9 you would need to add letterboxing to the video itself. This is another example of what I was referring to when I said you will creating yourself a lot of headaches.
Something that is 1920x802 pixels is not a compliant DVD resolution. Your DVD authoring program is either doing these things for you in the background or it's creating a non compliant DVD. A non compliant DVD will not play in all DVD players. If you are just burning the file to a DVD disc this is not an authored DVD but a data disc. Support for video files burned to data disc is model/manufacturer dependent.
Oh okay. Well if 1920x802 is not good, then I could do 1920x1080 and add black bars over top. But I've been using encore DVD and it seems to takea 1920x802 video and put it on the DVD just fine, unless there is something wrong and I am missing it?
But even if I did add the black bars, I still want to shoot in wider aspect ratios than 16:9. How do I shoot with that in the camera? There are plenty of newer movies that are shot on digital cameras that are shot on wider aspect ratios than 16:9, so how do they do it, during shooting?
But I've been using encore DVD and it seems to takea 1920x802 video and put it on the DVD just fine,
As I said it's either doing this for you in the background or it's non compliant DVD. The highest available resolution of a DVD is 720*480 .
Open the disc and copy the .vob file to your computer, rename it .mpg. Some editors will open it but yours may not because it's not a purely a .mpg video file and has other data. You can also try using this tool:
Once you have it open the editor you can see exactly what it did.
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But even if I did add the black bars, I still want to shoot in wider aspect ratios than 16:9. How do I shoot with that in the camera? There are plenty of newer movies that are shot on digital cameras that are shot on wider aspect ratios than 16:9, so how do they do it, during shooting?
To reiterate you resolution and aspect do not necessarily correlate. You do not need to add anything for 16:9 because it's supported in the DVD spec. If you have DV camcorder for example it's going to record to 720*480 whether you have it set 16:9 or 4:3. If you opened this video file without any adjustment for aspect it will look like this:
See how the beer sign circles have egg shape?
There is a flag set in the header to tell software what the aspect is and your editor or software player will adjust the aspect. when you are authoring the DVD it also has flag that the DVD player can read. Let's suppose you have 4:3 TV and have the DVd player options set correctly for 4:3 TV. It will look like this:
The black bars are added by the DVD player, they are not part of the video file. This still applies on wide screen TV because if you have 4:3 material it will pillarbox the video adding black bars left and right.
DVD only supports 16:9 or 4:3 so if you have material wider than a 16:9 aspect you would still set the aspect of the DVD to 16:9 and you would have to add additional black bars top and bottom to the video file itself.
Oh okay I see. Sorry I got mixed up I meant for blu rays it's 1920x802, and for DVDs I set it to 720x300.
But if I am suppose to create DVD in 720x480, then I can do that, and add the black bars.
However, how do I shoot in aspect ratios wider than 16:9 in camera, so I can frame it correctly for a wider aspect ratio in the first place?
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The resolution of a compliant authored DVD will always be 720*480 (assuming NTSC), this is neither 4:3 or 16:9. There is other resolutions but they are smaller. On a DV camcorder the resolution is also 720*480 whther it's 4:3 or 16:9. If you look at frame of 16:9 that has not been adjusted for dispaly people will tall be and gangly and things like circles will have egg shape. There is flag set in the video that will tell players or your editor this is 16:9 video and it will adjust the aspect appropriately for display. 
