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Old 08-19-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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Geographically speaking, would you consider it to be in the Northeastern Sector or the Southeastern Sector of the east coast?

Noaa climatically and geographically has it as the ''southeast". For the unaware, Noaa is the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the top weather administration in the country where all major climate/weather alerts come from.



As you can see, virginia southward to florida is considered southeast (as it is by most places/people). And even though it doesn't show it on this particular map, noaa considers Maryland up to NY as the mid atlantic (which makes up 1 part of the Northeast along with New England).

referenced here:

US NODC Coastal Water Temperature Guide


I personally think it is in the southeast and genuinely agree with noaa's assessment. But it seems like there are a lot of people increasingly considering it to be a Northeastern state just because of the washington dc suburbs in VA. What do you guys think?

Please no flame wars, i'm sure there are virginians that are proud of their southern heritage, i'm just speaking GEOGRAPHICALLY, and not heritage wise.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:08 PM
 
Location: The South
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Yes.
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Old 08-19-2011, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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I consider it Mid-Atlantic - halfway between North and South.
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly DC and Phila
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I think NOAA got it right. I consider Virginia to be a southeastern state, and while I do think Northern Virginia is very similar to the mid-atlantic, NoVA is such a small part of the state. Overall, I think of Virginia as "The South."
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Thornrose
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VA is the epitome of mid atlantic. Actually, if you want to get uber technical, it's slightly NORTH of mid atlantic. Heres why.

Geographically - Since Richmond is considered the gateway to the south, and it is geographically in the southern part of central VA, I use it as a reference. From Richmond to Houlton, ME(Canadian border) is 902 miles. From Richmond to Homestead, FL is 980 miles. It would be even farther if it was Key West.

Climactically, the only section of VA that is truly temperate all year round, is the Hampton Roads area. And that is a very small area. And they have gotten some snow the past few winters too. We experience all four seasons here, and while we don't get Canadian style snowstorms every winter, it can and does get very cold and usually does snow at least a few times each winter. We got upwards of 5 feet of snow the winter of '09-'10. And growing up here we have had other big storms like that too. Other winters we can get little to no snowfall. Summers on the east coast average close to same up and down. Except for the extreme northeast and southeast. Our flora here is deciduous. Yes there are some palm trees in Va Beach that the city tourist office planted. Just note that I have never seen a palm tree at the OBX from Cape Lookout to Cape Hatteras.

Culturally is the dealbreaker for many. NoVa is considered completely devoid of any southerness while the "RoVa" is a hillbilly backwash. But that is complete ignorance of anyone claiming that! Virginia's role in the civil war is undeniable, as is civil rights history. But I also feel VA has come the farthest in the least amount of time. Especially since we were the first state to elect a black governor. I also see on a daily basis people of different cultural and racial backgrounds mingling peacefully. I have even seen the most stereotypical redneck riding around and having a good time with a black guy. It is to be noted that rednecks inhabit every state. I have seen the confederate battle flag in DC, MD, PA, NY and CT, and the people who display them there. There are also you're uber yuppie snobs in all parts of VA too. The culture divide is mainly a rural vs. urban thing, and can be hard to get over if you moved here from a large urban area. This is also reflected in the type of food you'll find in whatever part of the state you visit. Then you have the accent debate. You have people like me with no discernable accent. And that's been proven to me when I have visited friends up north or down south. On the flip side you can have the most slack jawed drawl you could imagine. And these people could very well have grown up next to each other. I have seen it. My friend has no accent, while his sister does.

So on pretty much every scale, Virginia is evenly split. Very appropriate if you think about it, since we are at the border of what is considered north and south. We have a 50/50 blend here of everything. And that is why I consider VA the definition of a mid atlantic state.
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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That is just an administrative map, it has nothing to do with the actual climate or actual geography. You can find maps like this from various business and government organizations with quite bizarre configurations.

This is a link to the Association of American Geographers, Southeastern Division.

Untitled Document
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Old 08-23-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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That is just an administrative map, it has nothing to do with the actual climate or actual geography. You can find maps like this from various business and government organizations with quite bizarre configurations.

This is a link to the Association of American Geographers, Southeastern Division.

Untitled Document

excuse me?

Through climate analysis, National Climatic Data Center scientists have identified nine climatically consistent regions within the contiguous United States which are useful for putting current climate anomalies into a historical perspective (Karl and Koss, 1984). See map below.



http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-pr...te-regions.php
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Thornrose
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excuse me?

Through climate analysis, National Climatic Data Center scientists have identified nine climatically consistent regions within the contiguous United States which are useful for putting current climate anomalies into a historical perspective (Karl and Koss, 1984). See map below.



U.S. Climate Regions
Do you live here in VA? If you do, you should know that there are like 4 or 5 different climate zones just within the state. In the real world, according to your map, VA would be a mix of orange blue and green.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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That is not really a climate map. Climate does not follow state lines. It was created for their own purposes for their own project. This is what climate maps look like, they are very messy.



NCDC: CLIMAPS -
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:40 PM
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Geographically, culturally & historically, VA is not only in the South, she's the cradle of its birth! Deo Vindice! [><]
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