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Old 10-02-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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25% is the threshhold to join the Washington DC Metro Area.

Here are the commuter numbers for non-MSA counties in my NoVA map on Page 1:
Commuters into Core DC Counties:
Orange County, VA: 2,925 of 14,299: 20.46% (w/Fredericksburg city & Spotsylvania: 32.29%)
King George, VA: 2,370 of 11,717: 20.23% (w/Fredericksburg & Spotsylvania: 35.27%)
Madison County, VA: 787 of 6,209: 12.47% (w/Fredericksburg & Spotsylvania: 13.24%) + Culpeper: 37.25%
Page County, VA: 1,094 of 9,912: 11.03%
Shenandoah County, VA: 1,948 of 19,419: 10.03%
Greene County, VA: 111 of 8,731: 1.27%

So, as I said earlier, I think Page and Shenandoah might be better off in Shenandoah Region, but King George and Orange Counties are clearly creatures of NoVa.
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Old 10-03-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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25% is the threshhold to join the Washington DC Metro Area.

Here are the commuter numbers for non-MSA counties in my NoVA map on Page 1:
Commuters into Core DC Counties:
Orange County, VA: 2,925 of 14,299: 20.46% (w/Fredericksburg city & Spotsylvania: 32.29%)
King George, VA: 2,370 of 11,717: 20.23% (w/Fredericksburg & Spotsylvania: 35.27%)
Madison County, VA: 787 of 6,209: 12.47% (w/Fredericksburg & Spotsylvania: 13.24%) + Culpeper: 37.25%
Page County, VA: 1,094 of 9,912: 11.03%
Shenandoah County, VA: 1,948 of 19,419: 10.03%
Greene County, VA: 111 of 8,731: 1.27%

So, as I said earlier, I think Page and Shenandoah might be better off in Shenandoah Region, but King George and Orange Counties are clearly creatures of NoVa.
Where are you getting these numbers from? Are you saying the total population of OC is 14,299? It's 34,239.

Demographics and Population Data for Orange County VA

And please link the source for the number of commuters from Orange County into the DC Metro area. If your number is accurate, then that drops the percentage to 8.5%.
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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Where are you getting these numbers from? Are you saying the total population of OC is 14,299? It's 34,239.

Demographics and Population Data for Orange County VA

And please link the source for the number of commuters from Orange County into the DC Metro area. If your number is accurate, then that drops the percentage to 8.5%.
Commuting (Journey to Work) Main - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau
Go here: Table 1. County to County Commuting Flows for the United States and Puerto Rico: 2009-2013 [XLSX - 11M]

Commuter flow data comes from the ACS which is a sample of the population, not the full size. The determination of MSA/CSA is derived from the sampling data obtained through the ACS. And 34,239 is the population. The labor pool is smaller than that, the commuter pool even smaller and the ACS is a sub-set of that even smaller pie. But this is where the data for metro area delineations comes from.
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Old 10-11-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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Technically, by the oldest and most traditional definition, Hopewell is in the Tidewater region (Coastal Plain). And I'm truth, there is still a hint of historic Tidewater cultural leanings there, but from a realistic, modern-day perspective, Hopewell is almost entirely Richmond-Central Virginia oriented, socially and culturally...

That's just one anecdote that I'll come back and add to later. The OP map was way too innacurate...
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Millersville, Md and King George, Va
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King George, definitely not part pf NOVA. I would add it to Chesapeake.
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Old 10-15-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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Should Petersburg be included in southside Virginia? Or at least be the far northern tip of the region?
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Old 10-30-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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King George, definitely not part pf NOVA. I would add it to Chesapeake.
It was part of the Washington DC metro area until 2003 I believe. So it definitely has links to NOVA, more to Fredericksburg than Washington, however.
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Virginia-Shenandoah Valley
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It was part of the Washington DC metro area until 2003 I believe. So it definitely has links to NOVA, more to Fredericksburg than Washington, however.
Not saying you're wrong but I certainly do not recall this. Any links?
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Old 11-27-2016, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Green Country
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Not saying you're wrong but I certainly do not recall this. Any links?
No pics but if you go to the Census site here and CTRL + F for King George, you'll see that it was part of Washington's Metro Area until 2003: http://www.census.gov/population/met...al/99mfips.txt

1993 delineation: http://www.census.gov/population/met...al/93mfips.txt

King George was part of the Washington MSA from 1993-2003, so there's definitely a connection to NOVA (if mostly to Fredericksburg).
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Old 02-02-2021, 04:43 PM
 
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This is the way I view (and describe) Virginia's regions from my travels.

Northern Virginia - Fredericksburg and all areas north of the Rappahannock River. Fairfax is the heart of this region, which is primarily comprised of Washington, D.C. suburbs but it's still uniquely Virginian. Arlington and Alexandria have a lot of character.

Greater Richmond - Virginia's capital at Richmond and the surrounding suburban counties (Chesterfield, Henrico, etc.), an area built on tobacco production that has gradually diversified its economy over the years. Petersburg, Colonial Heights, and Hopewell should be included in this region, too.

Greater Charlottesville / Jeffersonian Country - Charlottesville and the surrounding areas, roughly in-between Northern Virginia and Southside. This area is famous for the University of Virginia and the estates of several presidents (Monticello, Montpelier, Ash Lawn-Highland).

Tidewater/Hampton Roads - The eastern half of Virginia, including Williamsburg and the entire Hampton Roads region. Historically, this is Virginia's "cradle of civilization," home to Jamestown and other historic sites.

Southside - A rural region along the North Carolina border, including the I-85 corridor. Most cities and towns in Southside are small, such as Danville, Emporia, Farmville, South Hill, and others. Culturally, this area is "southern" to the core, famous for tobacco and textiles.

Western Virginia - The western half of the state, stretching from the Shenandoah Valley to the Tennessee border (I-81). Roanoke is the largest city in this region. This entire area is famous for Appalachian culture, from Winchester to Bristol.
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