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Unread 05-29-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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secondly why do people keep saying they dont know what i mean...dont they read the post that started the thread and I quote

" rural housing available thats not super expensive, access to organic/ natural foods and farms, preferably a waldorf or other type alternative school, maybe a community of artists. Hopefully this gives a picture of what we want. Not a conservative area, etc. I can give more info if it will help"
Mainly because areas that have rural housing are areas that don't have the population to support organic supermarkets/farms or communities of artists. Having a rural lifestyle and having the amenities of a larger city are generally two very different things, and if there are rural areas near larger cities, those are generally the most expensive places to live.

From the places mentioned and what you're looking for, I really believe you'd be most happy in NoVA (including the area macjr mentioned), followed by C-ville, and finally Blacksburg/Roanoke. Blacksburg/Roanoke is a college town, but the community at large imo doesn't really support the arts outside of university events or organic food farms/markets. But then on the other hand, I'd say Blacksburg/Roanoke is most affordabe, followed by Cville, and then NoVA. Depending on what you're willing to compromise on, I wouldn't necessarily rule any of them out. But if you were happy in Asheville, that area is probably most similar to the Burg or Cville.

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Unread 05-29-2009, 11:00 AM
 
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also wanted to mention , trevor, why is open minded offensive?? as opposed to what you asked?? as opposed to closed minded judgentalism that judges people based on very small parts of who they are as opposed to accepting people as people and as long as they aren't hurting you or your family and are good people then why does anything else matter?
I believe you may have answered your own question. As opposed to closed-minded or narrow-minded judgmentalism is fair to say. Open-minded has also long been used to imply liberal, a number of years ago it was the dictionary definition of liberal. When in reality, I would say that there are many fair-minded liberals and fair-minded conservatives.

So the term open-minded, to many, implies that one who is socially conservative or has religious beliefs is not accepting of other people based on sex, race, economic class, or sexual orientation. But on quite the contrary, there are many social conservative who have no problem with any of those things. A conservative position on gay marriage for example (since that's in the news now), may be based on the term itself being religiously defined as man and woman, and doesn't mean at all the person is judgemental or thinks any less of homesexuals as people in any aspect. Open-minded just implies that there are a large number of others (conservatives) that are narrow-minded and judgemental based on something superficial, when in reality, there are just as many fair-minded conservatives as there are fair-minded liberals.

Just trying to help and point out a wording that may not be liked by some people. I would consider myself to be moderate, and a fan of the gov't getting rid of all marriages in favor of civil unions, while letting the curches decide who to marry. But I have many family members that are very conservative and friends that are very liberal so I try to be friendly in my language with people all across the political spectrum.

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Unread 05-29-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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what the hell is your problem you judgemental ********** I am not being sneaky at all....and how or why would anyone be sneaky on an internet forum its anonymous. whats so hard to understand about open minded and progressive as oppossed to judgemental and old school. its people like you i dont want my child surrounded by. and yes i certainly am teaching her tolerance of ALL people even judgemental ones.. What do you teach your kids to hate people not like them because there different? Maybe its not me who needs to express myself perhaps it you who needs to listen. I put my general desires in my first post. You just saw open minded and immediately thought I was gay.....but what the hell should that matter anyway as long as I respect you. I dont go around judging other people based off nothing as you apparently do. if you didnt have a simple answer to my simple question why are wasting your time badgering people on here. I hope you have a beautiful day.
So now I'm judgmental and ignorant. It sounds like you have some serious issues...
I wish you luck in your rural, liberal, organic eating community of artists. *laughs at irony*
 
Unread 05-30-2009, 09:07 AM
 
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I know there are some art galleries in Barboursville. That's pretty rural.

This person is looking for Asheville, NC in VA. And, as far as I know, he ain't gonna find it. People rave about places like Asheville because they're rare. Try Portland, OR; Sedona, AZ; or stay in Asheville, NC. Virginia is going to be different from that.

Also, note to the board: you don't want to challenge Asheville people. They're not used to it, and react badly to it.

An Asheville woman who I talked to daily dropped me like a hot potato once when I wouldn't agree with her that George Bush was evil. Not just doing a bad job, but metaphysically evil. ? She then ranted about how "people like me" give farmers cancer by buying Christmas trees from them and then went off in a huff, never to be heard from again. Weird, yes, but not (I gather) completely unique among people from Asheville.
 
Unread 06-01-2009, 04:43 AM
 
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"Also, note to the board: you don't want to challenge Asheville people. They're not used to it, and react badly to it. "


Well isnt that an amazingly large generalization. you talked to one person so everyone in asheville must be exactly like her.
 
Unread 06-01-2009, 04:45 AM
 
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So now I'm judgmental and ignorant. It sounds like you have some serious issues...
I wish you luck in your rural, liberal, organic eating community of artists. *laughs at irony*


oleo

I have serious issues? as if you know anything about me You are the one who saw open minded and immediately thought gay. Souns pretty judgemental to me.
 
Unread 06-01-2009, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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oleo

I have serious issues? as if you know anything about me You are the one who saw open minded and immediately thought gay. Souns pretty judgemental to me.
I ASKED if you were referring to gay or liberal. Learn to read. Not to mention, it is very misleading, as several other board members pointed out. And as I read your post, it did not fit the normal definition of open-minded. Oh, and I thought this conversation was done? Nick Nick Nick..."You're ignorant!!! You're judgmental!!! You're non-progressive!!! You're narrow minded!!! You're inconsiderate!!! You're oblivious to your surroundings!!!" Get some new lines, seriously. The problem is you, not others. You're like a combination of Rose O'Donald, Barney Frank and Perez Hilton. People like you make me sick because you give a bad rep to good liberals and good gays.

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Unread 06-01-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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We are thinking about moving to Va to be closer to family. The area we would like is somewhat open. We have lived in missoula mt and asheville nc. We want a community that is open minded, rural housing available thats not super expensive, access to organic/ natural foods and farms, preferably a waldorf or other type alternative school, maybe a community of artists. Hopefully this gives a picture of what we want. Not a conservative area, etc. I can give more info if it will help. Thanks for your help. We are not dead set on this exact area so any other ideas are welcome also.
Generally an open minded/ conscious area of people.

My advice is find a place that suits you, and then NEVER, EVER discuss politics (or religion) with strangers....that way, you don't have to worry about whether their minds are open, shut, or slightly ajar!
 
Unread 06-02-2009, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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oleo

I have serious issues? as if you know anything about me You are the one who saw open minded and immediately thought gay. Souns pretty judgemental to me.
The problem is that when one characterizes oneself as "open-minded," it leads to the question: What isn't open-minded? It's not like saying that I want to live with left handed people, it's like saying that I want to live with intelligent, educated, pretty, and modest people. I sincerely doubt that you are open-minded since you seem to have problems being around people that don't think of themselves the way you think of yourself. Open-minded people can live around anyone and can accept any reasoned point of view. I advise you to look for academic areas that tend to be full of people that think they are very special, very educated and very open-minded.

Good luck.
 
Unread 06-02-2009, 08:18 AM
 
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I ASKED if you were referring to gay or liberal. Learn to read. Not to mention, it is very misleading, as several other board members pointed out. And as I read your post, it did not fit the normal definition of open-minded. Oh, and I thought this conversation was done? Nick Nick Nick..."You're ignorant!!! You're judgmental!!! You're non-progressive!!! You're narrow minded!!! You're inconsiderate!!! You're oblivious to your surroundings!!!" Get some new lines, seriously. The problem is you, not others. You're like a combination of Rose O'Donald, Barney Frank and Perez Hilton. People like you make me sick because you give a bad rep to good liberals and good gays.


you did not ask you assumed that when i said open minded i was gay..That is judgemental. All I was asking for was some ideas of places to look, not for your personal feelings. Again I clearly defined what I was looking for in my initial post. You could have simply said I dont know or I dont think that exists in virginia. Its quite obvious that the idea of gay people really bothers you even though it has nothing to do with this thread you keep talking about it. Perhaps it bothers you because anything different than you bothers you. You jumped all over me in attempt to discredit me when all I wanted was info not a debate on how you or I define open minded. Not one time have I said I cant accept other people, it is you who have said things like learn to express yourself, learn to read. Again my first post stated the general things I desired in a place to live.
Apparently I am a problem because I am going to teach my daughter about the "crapola" of accepting other people NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE
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