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Old 11-15-2007, 02:11 PM
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Pigs will be Pigs!
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:42 PM
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Pigs will be Pigs!
You might disagree with this particular cop's approach or handling of the situation. He might be totally wrong; he might be a dope, whatever. But that statement is offensive and inappropriate for this forum.

As to the original poster: what equipment did he say was inappropriate? Radar detectors are illegal in VA, but I don't think GPS is.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:14 PM
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I never heard of a GPS being illegal in any state. It saves getting lost - worth its weight in gold there - also makes a trip safer and can get you home automatically from anywhere in the US. There is no reason for it to be illegal!

Where did you have the GPS? My husband has a TomTom and was going to put it on the windshield and I told him he better not as that would be obstructing his view.

One time my husband went through a stop sign here in NJ because he was very upset about a personal matter and not thinking. A local cop pulled him over and, since my hubby hasn't had a ticket in over 20 years, was going to let him go until his supervisor pulled up. He had to write him up for something so he told my husband the strings of beads he had dangling from the rearview mirror obstructed his view. So he got a ticket with a $75.00 fine. It wasn't a moving violation so no points against his license.

Where did you have the GPS? Or does it come already installed in the car? If so, I can't believe something like that is illegal unless it was obstructing your view.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:26 PM
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GPS is far from illegal in VA.
Radar Detectors are though.
VA is known for our bad cops, but dont generalize all VA cops as such.
Its just the bad ones seem to be more noticed.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:12 AM
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This has nothing to do with speeding or the Emporia area, but my wife got pulled over yesterday by a staking-out state policeman parked on I-64 for too dark window tinting. Between being the last day of the month and/or the "Operation Air, Land and Speed" program in force yesterday, methinks "quota" may have been the operative word. A $30 ticket becomes an instant $91 fee with "processing" and "local" fees. Better her than me as she's able to take it all in stride. The world will be a much safer and better place once our window tint is removed, if it also means we'll be a bit poorer.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:48 PM
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Default Fight Back! Call the U.S. Attorney's Office in Richmond

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Just yesterday morning, while my cruise control was set to 68 mph, a police officer pulled me and my wife over in Emporia. He claimed I was doing 80 mph. No chance!

It was refreshing to know that others are in the same boat. But we can fight back against corruption in Emporia, VA. This cottage industry - especially on interstate highways profiling out of state travelers - is a disgusting abuse of the public trust.

But we can fight back.

Here's how:

1. Email the Metro Editor for the Richmond Times Dispatch and tell him what is happening. Ask these reporters to investigate the Corruption in Emporia:

Clay, Pauline
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Hallman, Randy
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Pritchard, Keith
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Taylor, Andrew
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2. Call the US Attorney's office in Richmond and ask them to investigate corruption in Emporia. Call 804-819-540. Click here to learn more: United States Attorney's Office - Welcome to the Easterm District of Virginia.

Under their mandate, they can investigate public corruption.

NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:02 AM
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Yes I have. Mine didn't involve I was driving on a wet exit ramp, going lower than the speed limit, and I hydroplaned into a guard rail. Although my car only left a tiny, barely visible black scratch on the rail, the VDOT charged me $1,000 that my insurance company had to pay. My car sustained much more damage than the rail. After all, I thought rails weren't there to look pristine, they were there to take knocks from minor collisions and prevent cars from driving into ditches! Since then, my solution has been to avoid highway 58. If you are going through VA, it is much easier to just plan another route because they do profile out of state drivers. There are multiple other options for you, depending on where you are going.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:10 AM
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I was coming home traveling west bound on route 58, when a policeman pulled me over. He told me I was going 78 mph with a limit of 60, until I showed him my GPS, which showed my top speed of entire trip was only 67 MPH. He then joked and then wrote me a ticket for improper equipment instead of a speeding ticket. I told him that the car I was driving was a brand new rental car and he said "let them pay it". He told me no to go to court because it won't help.

Has anyone had problems with the police on 58/13 from VA to NC?
If they need money that bad they should put up a toll booth.
Something worth noting - almost all GPS' will show the average speed for your trip - not the constant speed. Just because your GPS showed 67 MPH after the fact, that doesn't mean you were not speeding at the time he hit you with the radar, since that was likely only your average speed. And even if your speed was, in fact, 67 when he clocked you, he could still make the argument that you were over the limit - albeit by only 2 MPH (picky, but it's still speeding).

Moreover, remember that radar has to be calibrated and checked annually in order to be admissible in court, so it's going to carry a lot more weight than a GPS in a rental car.

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Just yesterday morning, while my cruise control was set to 68 mph, a police officer pulled me and my wife over in Emporia. He claimed I was doing 80 mph. No chance!
Now, if you actually go so far as to SET your cruise contral to a speed above the posted limit (yes, it's a slim margin, but it's still over the legal limit), that's an intentional, illegal act on your part and I don't think any court in the land is going to have much sympathy for you. A word of advise: you might not want to say in court that you were essentially TRYING to go faster than the limit and still got caught, regardless of what the officers tells you at the scene. He/she probably only said you were going 80 to see what you'd admit to - not because it was the actual speed you were clocked at.

Virginia is not a speeding-friendly state. If you think about it, we ALL speed, all the time, even if only by one or two MPH. It's virtually unavoidable, especially when the traffic flow, itself, is going faster than the posted limit (but just because the next guy is speeding, it doesn't make it OK for us). Again, it'd be very picky to start ticketing people for those one/two-MPH violations, but you can see how that would likewise be a target-rich environment for a state as fiscally strapped as VA, where the state gov't all but "mandates" VSP to generate revenue via citations. It's frustrating, but still within the limit of the law, even if only barely. Only way to change it is to change the law, or more importantly, change the culture in state gov't that sees VSP as a source of revenue.

Not trying to take sides, but merely to explain...

As far as contacting the U.S. Attorney's Office - I'm not sure what you think that will do, but the U.S. Attorney has no jurisdiction over the VSP with regard to traffic violations. About the only way the Dept. of Justice could get involved in a state/local law enforcement agency's "business" would be if there were stark evidence of corruption - think use-of-force issues along the lines of Rodney King, bribery of public officials, and other serious violations. VSP writing a lot of speeding tickets and folks being likewise angry/frustrated at receiving them is really not "corruption" in that sense. That's not even going to come close to meriting U.S. Attorney/DOJ involvement. Probably won't even meet the threshold for investigation by VSP's internal affairs or the state's own IG office (or equivalent).

Tickets stink, no doubt about it. I've had a couple, too, and regardless of my personal frustration level at the time of the incident, I later realized I had been wrong. And whatever transpired between the officer and myself after I was stopped, there was never any doubt that the entire interaction was still caused by me - by driving faster than the posted speed limit. Live and learn. The only sure way to avoid a ticket or being stopped is to slow down and obey all traffic laws. Not saying people don't sometimes get pulled over for "doing nothing", but that happens far less than you think: as an officer, if you don't have an articulable reason to make a vehicle stop, it will be your butt in a sling in court.

As for the individual who suggested that "pigs will be pigs" - thank you for painting us all with the same brush. As a cop tasked with putting my life on the line for ungrateful people every day, I really appreciate the thoughtlessness.

On the flip side of the coin, thanks for standing up for us, Richmond Commuter .

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Old 07-24-2008, 06:28 PM
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You know it's bad when the tour guides warn you about watching your speed on certain Roads in certain counties. Yes, I was pulled over too, but luckly was let off with a warning. Guess he saw my Police ID (granted out of state) in my wallet when I grabbed my Driver's License out of my wallet.
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Old 07-26-2008, 05:29 AM
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i got pulled over in newport news at 5:15 am on harpersville rd between jefferson and warwick. i was doing 38 in a 25, when I asked why he was clocking cars on a road with very little traffic at 5 am he said it was for the chillllldreeeen walking to school there wasnt any sidewalks? what kid walks to school at 5am?
well I was speeding but I did tell him that I felt it wasnt a safety issue more of a newport news needs money to pay for their new city point or what ever the name of the new downtown they moved out by oyster point......aaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!
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