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Old 06-15-2012, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Sarasota-Manatee, Florida
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Hey everyone, I'm in the market to purchase a new car. My budget is no more then 18k. I'm set on a Volkswagen Jetta but am not sure if I should purchase a certified pre owned 5th gen Jetta (2008-2010) or go for a newer 6th gen Jetta (2011-2012). I heard that VW lowered the quality of the 6th gen Jetta to keep the price really affordable. How does the new model compare to the previous?

I'm looking more for gas mileage then anything.

Thank you for your feedback!
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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5th gen. Reviews of the 6th gen are far poorer.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:42 PM
 
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You don’t mention what trim/engine you’re looking at.

The 2.0 was a decent engine back in 1993, but honestly I’m surprised VW is still using this engine. Granted they have done some updates to the block like a timing belt driven water pump. It’s pathetic that this is all VW can offer is an 8 valve in a base model. The horsepower is still the same as 1993
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Old 06-16-2012, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Sarasota-Manatee, Florida
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Very true, for 18k I would have no choice to get a 2.0 engine. The Jetta SE is equipped with the better engine. I'll be doing a lot of high way driving, averaging 100 miles a day.

I was looking at the Jetta TDI (certified pre owned) 2009-2010. Are the engines any good? Think there 140 hp.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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My doG yes, the TDI engines are good. Most of the complaints and quality issues that you see with VW are related to the engine, and specifically the gasser engines. I'm still driving my 2001 TDI (never had a break-down), and even with 230,000 miles on the clock it's returning 48~49mpg (lifetime average). The ALH motor in the MK4 TDI's was only rated for 90hp, and the car has no issues with 80~85mph, with AC while pulling a loaded 5x8 trailer (uphill ~ heh did this while moving some stuff from GA to CO). VW upped the HP but dropped the fuel economy since the MK4 so it may not make financial sense to buy one now with the discrepancy in fuel costs.

For instance, a diesel that gets 40 (average for a 2009 Jetta TDI) costs $0.09/mile at $3.59 (local price via GasBuddy). A gas car would only need to hit 35mpg (at $3.19, again from gasbuddy from the same small town) which can be done by any number of cars. It's a little harder to find a 43mpg gas car (same fuel price per mile as my diesel Jetta).

I sure do wish that diesel were cheaper than gas, like it was when I first bought my TDI. I remember paying $0.40~0.50/gallon less (and filling up for under $20, that would carry me 800+ miles). *sigh*
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Sarasota-Manatee, Florida
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Wow! thats great, 230,000 miles on a Jetta TDI. I was looking at VWs yesterday, looks like the best and most affordable option is a 2009-10 Jetta TDI.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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I have an '06 (2.5L) that I picked up to just scoot around and get good mpg. With the 5spd and my driving habits, I often have the accelerator floored... I have yet to see below 28mpg and as high as 32 avg, I just changed plugs a couple days ago so I expect that to improve slightly. I wanted a TDI but couldn't find many used and this being a 4th vehicle I was not looking to shell out much for something newer, plus for what I paid I would never see the fuel savings in TDI vs. what I have. The 2.0T's get slightly better mpg than the 2.5 however they require premium. Can't speak for 6th gen but I am very pleased with build quality and overall performance. Reliability... I am second owner and have all maintenance records from previous owner, with 93k on the clock there has been no major issues, just a minor wiring issue in the door that I fixed and the trunk latch sensor is occasionally finicky.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:43 PM
 
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Both are bland German Corollas but this current generation is so horrid it is unbelievable to me they sell.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Get which ever version you can find with CRANK windows. VW makes most of their corp profit selling replacement electric window operators and replacement plastic door handles.

Whatever you do, DON"T buy a 2.Slow liter.

Get an earlier TDI wagon (preferrably a B4). I get to kinda liking my 1200 miles per fill (52 MPG w/ 25 gal tank).

You don't need to buy GAS (or fuel). Just find a friend who is a jet mechanic (they can get you discarded jetA for free) of just use turkey fryer oil, or your local chinese or Mex Eatery. (or hundreds of other products they will burn)...including used engine oil.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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Get which ever version you can find with CRANK windows. VW makes most of their corp profit selling replacement electric window operators and replacement plastic door handles.
VW started using metal window regulator brackets back in the early 2000's. Mine were replaced, under warranty, in 2002 and about 210,000 miles ago. Zero issues since. And the dang things are only like $60 per side anyway even if one or both did need to be replaced. Not exactly a killing profit made on those. Nothing else (handles, levers, knobs, switches, etc..) has broken, come loose or performed anything other than as new.


@ RandyWatson13 ~ we don't tell you your POS, over sized, unreliable, fuel thirsty and Horribly uncomfortable American cars are **** in your threads, try returning the favor and taking your carp elsewhere, eh? I'll take my "bland" German cars over anything you could possibly find out of an American based company any time.
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