Gaithersburg unanimously approves mixed use zoning for Montgomery County Fairgrounds (Silver Spring: apartments, home)
Washington, DC suburbs in MarylandCalvert County, Charles County, Montgomery County, and Prince George's County
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One needs to look at the demographic changes in Olde Town, Deer Park and the area just south of the Fairgrounds to see clearly what the future of this area will be. The area is also bracketed by the B&O railline and fading shopping centers like the Gaithersburg Town Center. Can we say Section 8 housing and Habla Espanol? The future of Gaithersburg is more likely to be like Langley Park or Wheaton!
Go drive down in Bethesda to see what Gaithersburg is going to be like. This is sad how clueless most people are about what is happening in their own community. If you need an example of gentrification, look no further than D.C. for and example of what is happening in Gaithersburg.
Correct.
Look at the Petworth area in DC. I'm not even that old and it's very different from as recently as 10 years ago.
Rio/Washingtonian Center and Kentlands are small-scale examples of how some redevelopment can suddenly change a place.
All of the information MDAllstar has given us is pointing towards a more high-end gentrified city. There is no doubt that there will still be poor folk around and they will use mass transit too. But the hypothesis that most of the section 8 will keep getting pushed furthern north on I-270 seems very likely. The city and the developers wouldn't be investing all of this money for low end housing and clientelle.
The low end folks end up in the "older neighborhoods" once the residents there move up into the newer housing. I think the demographic change in the old small 1970 and 1980s townhouses in Germantown and Montgomery Village (and Frederick for that matter) are pretty good evidence of this. Many of these houses are still owned and now rented out by residents that moved into newer communties.
[quote=MDAllstar;18016358]Pepco and the water has nothing to do with population. It has to do with a poor company that is not run well. The water tasting bad has to do with living in the city. Pot holes? Our roads look just as good or better than most major cities. Low Income taking mass transit? Lol...have you ever been to Arlington? Have you been to DC? Have you been to Bethesda? You sound so ignorant right now. Many people in these areas are white and live without a car. Its obvious you have not experienced this phenomenon. "
I drive to Rockville and Gaithersburg weekly. Just got back from Rockville Town Center when I posted before; hit every freaking pothole on Viers Mill and Norbeck on the way home -- must have just jostled my brain and made me ignorant. LOL. I have never lived anywhere with roads this bad.
That power grid and water supply aren't going to regenerate all by themselves. In other cities in which I have lived, those items, as well as public transportation, and roads, all count as infrastructure.
I am all for the development--think it will be very nice. But, tire of all the boosterism.
All of the information MDAllstar has given us is pointing towards a more high-end gentrified city. There is no doubt that there will still be poor folk around and they will use mass transit too. But the hypothesis that most of the section 8 will keep getting pushed furthern north on I-270 seems very likely. The city and the developers wouldn't be investing all of this money for low end housing and clientelle.
The low end folks end up in the "older neighborhoods" once the residents there move up into the newer housing. I think the demographic change in the old small 1970 and 1980s townhouses in Germantown and Montgomery Village (and Frederick for that matter) are pretty good evidence of this. Many of these houses are still owned and now rented out by residents that moved into newer communties.
Actually I noticed that newer families are buying homes in Montgomery Village the past 2 years I have been there. Its actually improved from the previous five years from what my neighbors tell me. Besides the bad parts I have heard about are Cider Mill Apartments. When they redo Lake Forest are they going to tear them down. I doubt they will be making more affordable housing in Montgomery Village. There's nowhere left to build there.
I heard the same thing, specifically that younger Asian families were starting in buy into some of the more rental dominated neighborhoods. That would be the ideal situation, to use those lower priced houses as starter properties for decent people.
Still, those people displaced from Gaithersburg and the apts. you are mentioning are going to have to move somewhere, and the older housing stock in Germantown and M. Village (and Frederick) have been absorbing the majority for sometime.
2 Combined Metros...so the Suburbs Merge , but the vast Majority of our suburbs are old and built out on Railway lines and streetcar lines. Your suburbs are Auto dependent....for the most part and have no bounds...
Totally Complete 100% BS....
Upstate NY, Western PA, Central/Southern NJ, Long Island, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Southern Mass. ALL have Auto Dependent Suburbs or Else the I-95 Corridor would not be a 24/7 Parking Lot in Dire Need of Highway Widening.....
And Speaking of Highway Widening I really like what New Jersey is doing with widening the New Jersey Turnpike/I-95 to 12 Lanes from Exit 5 to Exit 9 which is a good 30 mile stretch......
What part of Bethesda, North Bethesda, Rockville, or Gaithersburg lacks the infrastructure for development? D.C. is built on a hub and spoke design and all development is focused around transit. What are you talking about? Every single place listed has metro and Marc commuter rail access. I think the craziest thing about all this is you know about transit in this area. You know that all suburban development is strictly around commuter rail and metro based on zoning laws in place. And why do you keep bringing up Baltimore in relation to D.C.? We have nothing to do with them. We are apart of D.C. and have no connection to Baltimore. Why would developers want to build in Baltimore anyway? D.C. and it's suburbs is where all the development is going right now. It's the number one market for a reason.
I was with you until you made that Baltimore Comment.....
It's best you leave Baltimore out of the discussion because there are alot of people(me included) that want to push for more Development in the Baltimore area.......
And I still believe that Montgomery County and PG County is held back in Development unlike Northern Virginia is that Suburban Maryland is not building/widening enough Highways, Approving Office/Upscale Retail/Hospitality Development around 80% of both Counties, and not making the existing Transit Buses and Trains operate 24/7...........
One needs to look at the demographic changes in Olde Town, Deer Park and the area just south of the Fairgrounds to see clearly what the future of this area will be. The area is also bracketed by the B&O railline and fading shopping centers like the Gaithersburg Town Center. Can we say Section 8 housing and Habla Espanol? The future of Gaithersburg is more likely to be like Langley Park or Wheaton!
So you are saying they will not Gentrify Gaithersburg the same exact way they are Gentrifying most of Northwest DC East of the Rock Creek Park???????
Actually, you are wrong. Gaithersburg is Gentrifying. Most of those old apartment complexes in Olde town are being torn down. Olde Town will be very expensive soon. They also don't have to offer affordable housing because they are in the CBD which is exempt from MPDU. The demogtaphics are going to change but more like how downtown DC is changing. By the way, Lakeforest is next and the demographics will be changing there as well. Gaithersburg is going to be extremly expensive in the future. Most low income families will live in Montgomery Village or Germantown in about 10 years.
- The only way they will Successfully change the "Demographics" in Lakeforest is to push for Upscale Retail Stores like Neimans, Saks, Cache', Chanel, Gucci, Cheesecake Factory, De Berrs, J. Crew, Ralph Lauren, PF Changs, Rosetta Stone, Versace, etc. to locate Inside the Mall.....
- There is already a section in Germantown that have low income housing........
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