Gaithersburg unanimously approves mixed use zoning for Montgomery County Fairgrounds (Columbia: credit, hotel)
Washington, DC suburbs in MarylandCalvert County, Charles County, Montgomery County, and Prince George's County
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The fact that you think freeway development is urban tells us all we need to know about you. Cars aren't urban so you better believe freeways aren't urban. Virginia outside of Arlington is not even close to as urban as Montgomery County. Single family houses aren't urban which Virginia is full of. Buildings in Tyson's Corner built way out from the curb with ample surface parking is not urban.
The redline corridor is way more urban than anything in Fairfax county and that is only going to multiple. The mere fact that you think cars and roads are good for urbanity shows you know nothing about urbanity. Gridded streets, subways, and lack of surface parking is urban. Maryland is already way ahead of Virginia because our subway stations are in urban neighborhoods where development is taking place everywhere right now. Virginia built their subway in a highway median!! LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
Virginia is a country, tree covered, suburban, soccer mom oasis. Montgomery County is only building in the Red Line core to mimic D.C. development. Fairfax should try it. Tyson's Corner is the only place that is building an urban carless city. The rest of Virginia will rely on cars and will not be walkable. Virginia looks like Atlanta which is one of the most country cities in the nation. Wide spread out buildings and built for the car. FAIL!!! NYC, Philly, D.C., and Boston are cities that are urban. Rowhouses and gridded streets etc. etc. That is what Montgomery County is doing right now.
Dude anyone with an ounce of common intelligence will not take the above BS rant seriously.......
Glad you responded to that non-sense before I did. He really doesn't have a clue. If the state of Maryland has done one thing right, it's not going overboard with their development. Even Prince Georges County still has the opportunity to develop near Metro Station currently surrounded by woods.
Riiiight because you definitely would not want PG County to have the same respect of Business Growth and Economic Wealth like Fairfax County, Loudoun County, and Prince William County.......
It would just hurt you people to see PG County having the Same Massive Growth like Tysons Corner, Fair Oaks, Dulles Town Centre, and Pentagon City............
But thats ok because you peoples fascist views towards making PG County/Suburban Maryland the anti-Northern Virginia(Metro Atlanta) will FAIL Miserably.....
I have come to being very hip when these anti-Maryland characters keep throwing around words like Smart Growth and Transit Oriented Development is just a bunch of sugar coded words for anti-Growth, anti-Progressive, and anti-highway building when it comes to Maryland competing against Virginia.....
These characters will never admit that if Smart Growth and Transit Oriented development was such good planning then why is Virginia continuing to Build/ Expand Highways, Massive Office Towers, Multi-Level Shopping Malls, and Subways more than 20 miles from DC/Arlington/Alexandria......
Cities don't build highways. NYC isn't building highways. Boston isn't building highways. Philadelphia isn't building highways. The highest ridership by far on the Metro is on the redline. Why? Because it's built into the urban fabric and in neighborhoods. People can walk to the station. The Silver Line is being built in a highway median like the orange line after Arlington. What a joke. It's basically a park and ride. LOL!! Have you ever been to NYC and rode the subway? Count the subway trains in highway medians? Then go to London and do the same. Virginia much like L.A., Houston, and Dallas is a spread out, southern, country, single family home style area except for Arlington and Alexandria that is trying to get past their conservative, anti-transit borderline racist outlook on life. The suburbs are headed towards cities. Virginia better get on board. They have major work to do on their bus network so people can get to the stations without driving. Single family homes are for soccer mom's in Montana. We have too many people and jobs coming to build them anymore. It's highrise time! Prince George's County better get with the picture too now that we are on the subject. Their Comprehensive Plan is full of single family homes like this is Mayberry or something.
Riiiight because you definitely would not want PG County to have the same respect of Business Growth and Economic Wealth like Fairfax County, Loudoun County, and Prince William County.......
It would just hurt you people to see PG County having the Same Massive Growth like Tysons Corner, Fair Oaks, Dulles Town Centre, and Pentagon City............
But thats ok because you peoples fascist views towards making PG County/Suburban Maryland the anti-Northern Virginia(Metro Atlanta) will FAIL Miserably.....
If you want to know why Prince George's County is in the state it's in, look no further than Jack Johnson. Prince George's County has one of the most corrupt city council's in the nation. They can't get anything done. They take bribes and delay projects and it's just sad. The citizens deserve better.
I gotta laugh at this thread...while it's great that Maryland is much more carefully planned than VA (and it certainly shows!)...it's so funny to see the elitism here at the perception of suburban MD being more urban than suburban VA.
Their idea of urbanism is making All of Suburban Maryland look as embarrassing as Takoma Park....
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Originally Posted by eastli84
Do you know what's urban? A 24/7 subway system. A 24/7 regional rail system that is more than just a handful of stations. Great, unique, world-class restaurants (Sorry, but Cheesecake Factory isn't one of them). Huge, bad$&% highways and interchanges.
And what these character's will not admit is that Arlington/Alexandria is more Urban than any area in Suburban Maryland(Inside the Beltway) plus Arlington/Alexandria have multiple Freeways with massive interchanges....
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Originally Posted by eastli84
Do you know what's not urban? Suburban MD and suburban VA.
Arlington/Alexandria is more Urban than Bethesda, Silver Spring, Chevy Chase/Friendship Heights, Hyattsville, Takoma Park all put together.......
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Originally Posted by eastli84
Also, if all you do is dismiss others as ignorant because they do not have the same urban definitions as you, then that makes you come across as ignorant.
Their idea of urbanism is making All of Suburban Maryland look as embarrassing as Takoma Park....
And what these character's will not admit is that Arlington/Alexandria is more Urban than any area in Suburban Maryland(Inside the Beltway) plus Arlington/Alexandria have multiple Freeways with massive interchanges....
Arlington/Alexandria is more Urban than Bethesda, Silver Spring, Chevy Chase/Friendship Heights, Hyattsville, Takoma Park all put together.......
Exactly!!!!!!!!
Arlington just blocked HOT LANES from coming into the city and got into a huge legal battle with the Republican lead state of Virginia that wanted to build the extra highway lanes. Virginia didn't understand that urban area's want to discourage car usage so adding lanes is bad. People need to take the train. It's too bad D.C. can't toll the bridges into the District like NYC does. That would cause way more people to take the train. You suburbanites and your cars!
Cities don't build highways. NYC isn't building highways. Boston isn't building highways. Philadelphia isn't building highways. The highest ridership by far on the Metro is on the redline. Why? Because it's built into the urban fabric and in neighborhoods. People can walk to the station. The Silver Line is being built in a highway median like the orange line after Arlington. What a joke. It's basically a park and ride. LOL!! Have you ever been to NYC and rode the subway? Count the subway trains in highway medians? Then go to London and do the same. Virginia much like L.A., Houston, and Dallas is a spread out, southern, country, single family home style area except for Arlington and Alexandria that is trying to get past their conservative, anti-transit borderline racist outlook on life. The suburbs are headed towards cities. Virginia better get on board. They have major work to do on their bus network so people can get to the stations without driving. Single family homes are for soccer mom's in Montana. We have too many people and jobs coming to build them anymore. It's highrise time! Prince George's County better get with the picture too now that we are on the subject. Their Comprehensive Plan is full of single family homes like this is Mayberry or something.
More pure BS that is nothing more than failed tit for tat......
And don't stoop soo low to bring up the term racist when the the people that have been preventing PG County to develop on the Exact same scale as Fairfax County are the Ultimate anti-AA Racist......
Tearing down indoor shopping malls without building new Upscale Indoor Shopping Malls is never been defined as Urban or else they would be Bull Dozing Tyson's Corner I & II, Fair Oaks Mall, Dulles Town Centre Mall, Ballston Commons, and Pentagon City Mall......
More pure BS that is nothing more than failed tit for tat......
And don't stoop soo low to bring up the term racist when the the people that have been preventing PG County to develop on the Exact same scale as Fairfax County are the Ultimate anti-AA Racist......
Tearing down indoor shopping malls without building new Upscale Indoor Shopping Malls is never been defined as Urban or else they would be Bull Dozing Tyson's Corner I & II, Fair Oaks Mall, Dulles Town Centre Mall, Ballston Commons, and Pentagon City Mall......
Actually, Im in urban planning and the whole country is tearing down shopping malls and replacing them with town centers. It's happening every where. White Flint Mall in North Bethesda is getting ready to do it too. Tyson's Corner will probably do the same thing soon. The suburban shopping mall is a thing of the past. The giant open parking lots are a thing of the past. The soccer mom driving the mini-van in the subdivision is a thing of the past. Cities aren't building them anymore. It's density time! Have you been to Park Ave. in NYC? Highrise buildings with retail on the bottom. That is the future for the suburbs. Shopping used to be that way before 1960 and we are finally returning to that style. Downtown shopping is the future. Suburban shopping is a thing of the past.
If you want to know why Prince George's County is in the state it's in, look no further than Jack Johnson. Prince George's County has one of the most corrupt city council's in the nation. They can't get anything done. They take bribes and delay projects and it's just sad. The citizens deserve better.
Jack Johnson supports the National Harbor and Woodmore Town Centre so he is definitely not as bad as the anti-Maryland Commies that has prevented Suburban Maryland from developing on the same Exact scale of Northern Virginia and Metro Atlanta......
Paris Glendenning, Martin O'Malley, and the anti-Growth MoCo Council are FAR More Corrupt and anti-Progressive than Jack Johnson.......
Actually, Im in urban planning and the whole country is tearing down shopping malls and replacing them with town centers. It's happening every where. White Flint Mall in North Bethesda is getting ready to do it too. Tyson's Corner will probably do the same thing soon. The suburban shopping mall is a thing of the past. The giant open parking lots are a thing of the past. The soccer mom driving the mini-van in the subdivision is a thing of the past. Cities aren't building them anymore. It's density time! Have you been to Park Ave. in NYC? Highrise buildings with retail on the bottom. That is the future for the suburbs. Shopping used to be that way before 1960 and we are finally returning to that style. Downtown shopping is the future. Suburban shopping is a thing of the past.
Now I see that your Motive to to Force Maryland back to the 18th Century of Development while pushing Northern Virginia into the Modern 21st Century of Development....
There are no plans what soo ever to tear down any of the Malls in Northern Virginia not even Springfield Mall....
What you are trying to dictate against Suburban Maryland will not ever be successful because it will be a cold day in HELL when All of Suburban Maryland Indoor Shopping Malls get torn down while Northern Virginia Indoor MEGA Malls remain at state.....
You keep dreaming OK because there are more people that share my views than views of fascist controlling of anti-Progressive Growth......
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