$1 billion casino at National Harbor proposed by Prince George’s Executive Baker (Columbia: real estate, apartment)
Washington, DC suburbs in MarylandCalvert County, Charles County, Montgomery County, and Prince George's County
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Looks like the next chapter begins this week. I found it interesting that Penn warns PG residents not to contribute to VA billionaires by allowing a casino at the Harbor considering they are billionaires from PA.
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Looks like the next chapter begins this week. I found it interesting that Penn warns PG residents not to contribute to VA billionaires by allowing a casino at the Harbor considering they are billionaires from PA.
That statement was so transparent I could see all the way through to PA. They are actually trying to pit MD against VA. lol What if the developer was Cordish from MD? Then what? Penn assumed that slots would automatically go to Rosecroft. They were wrong. Now they're scrambling.
They are getting desperate. Penn National realizes that if they do not get this casino, then their operations at Rosecroft will be a colossal failure. The issue is though, especially with the County Executive support, they cannot compete against the National Harbor. They need to just go ahead to plan B at this point. And I do understand their point about investing money in tax breaks for yet another company, but I find it a bit odd that a PA company is concerned about how MD taxpayers money is spent.
That statement was so transparent I could see all the way through to PA. They are actually trying to pit MD against VA. lol What if the developer was Cordish from MD? Then what? Penn assumed that slots would automatically go to Rosecroft. They were wrong. Now they're scrambling.
I agree. But you know there are going to be at least one or two yahoos that are going to think that their point is prolific and resonating. The problem I see with Rosecroft in general is that the public is no longer avid horse racing as they were 60 years ago. That said it's a gamble (no pun intended) placing a license that will not compensate for the additional overhead of maintaining the horse racing component. Another issue is visibility. Unless you are familiar with the area its really not that assessable. But I digress. IMO Penn Nat'l approach is assuming that MD voters (especially those in PG) cannot analyze the situation and make the best decision for themselves.
That statement was so transparent I could see all the way through to PA. They are actually trying to pit MD against VA. lol What if the developer was Cordish from MD? Then what? Penn assumed that slots would automatically go to Rosecroft. They were wrong. Now they're scrambling.
That statement was so transparent I could see all the way through to PA. They are actually trying to pit MD against VA. lol What if the developer was Cordish from MD? Then what? Penn assumed that slots would automatically go to Rosecroft. They were wrong. Now they're scrambling.
Speaking of Cordish, here is his take. In some ways he has a point but if you follow his logic then hotels, restaurants, etc. could use the same argument. just like any other business your value proposition determines if you don't offer anything special they won't come.
They are getting desperate. Penn National realizes that if they do not get this casino, then their operations at Rosecroft will be a colossal failure. The issue is though, especially with the County Executive support, they cannot compete against the National Harbor. They need to just go ahead to plan B at this point. And I do understand their point about investing money in tax breaks for yet another company, but I find it a bit odd that a PA company is concerned about how MD taxpayers money is spent.
Yeah they have previously acknowledged that Rosecroft will close without gambling. That said, how committed are they to making it work. There investement is already going to be less than MD Live. That being the case their offering at best would be in line with all the others. If they don't meet their numbers will the bail? At least Peterson has made an effort to have NH continue to grow when they could have easily bailed when the market tanked.
It could definitely be considered odd but I guess since there Cecil County casino is not as prime a location as Rosecroft would be for them, they are doing their best to be the top dog in this fight.
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Yeah they have previously acknowledged that Rosecroft will close without gambling. That said, how committed are they to making it work. There investement is already going to be less than MD Live. That being the case their offering at best would be in line with all the others. If they don't meet their numbers will the bail? At least Peterson has made an effort to have NH continue to grow when they could have easily bailed when the market tanked.
It could definitely be considered odd but I guess since there Cecil County casino is not as prime a location as Rosecroft would be for them, they are doing their best to be the top dog in this fight.
You know it's interesting that you said that. I forgot to mention that there was a meeting at the Oxon Hill Library last night about the various developments that are coming here. I caught the tail end of the meeting and I'm not sure if you were able to attend, but I heard a lot of people who feel as though the Peterson group is hurting the Oxon Hill/Fort Washington community. It seems like there was an overwhelming number of people who really think that all of this development is just hurting the area. Of course there were people who thought the opposite. It was a very emotional debate that went on.
You know it's interesting that you said that. I forgot to mention that there was a meeting at the Oxon Hill Library last night about the various developments that are coming here. I caught the tail end of the meeting and I'm not sure if you were able to attend, but I heard a lot of people who feel as though the Peterson group is hurting the Oxon Hill/Fort Washington community. It seems like there was an overwhelming number of people who really think that all of this development is just hurting the area. Of course there were people who thought the opposite. It was a very emotional debate that went on.
The only hurt they mean is traffic. And that's subjective. I never thought I'd see the day when people complained so much about not having anything in the county to do or anywhere nice to shop or eat do an about face and complain about the very thing they were asking for. I'm baffled. I guess they only meant an Applebees or Olive Garden here and there and a few Payless shoe stores a Shoppers and a Target.
NH brings jobs, tourists, and upscale amenities. That's a win/win for everybody. We asked for it, some of us knew the sacrifices - namely more traffic. But hey, that's the sign of a successful development right? Lots of people. Look at University Town Center in Hyattsville. Is that what folks in Forestville want? A bunch of failing stores and NO foot or vehicle traffic to sustain the development? Sheesh.
We'll complain, but we have no problems going to Georgetown, Crystal City, Tyson's Corner, Rockville, and Alexandria to give them all of our money. And we look at their services and envy them while we sit here and stew about traffic. Wah wah wah. I don't have to drive all the way to Virgina to have fun, but this traffic is unbearable!
You know it's interesting that you said that. I forgot to mention that there was a meeting at the Oxon Hill Library last night about the various developments that are coming here. I caught the tail end of the meeting and I'm not sure if you were able to attend, but I heard a lot of people who feel as though the Peterson group is hurting the Oxon Hill/Fort Washington community. It seems like there was an overwhelming number of people who really think that all of this development is just hurting the area. Of course there were people who thought the opposite. It was a very emotional debate that went on.
Actually I didn't know about it but it seems that announcements on these meetings are spotted at best. Oftentimes opponents to development are referencing traffic, etc. However these are the same people that complain about the lack of ammenities and high paying jobs in the area. Don't get me wrong I can empathize with there view but 1) You can't have your cake and eat it too and 2) Growth next to a major city is to be expected and for there not to eventually be is unrealistic.
The only hurt they mean is traffic. And that's subjective. I never thought I'd see the day when people complained so much about not having anything in the county to do or anywhere nice to shop or eat do an about face and complain about the very thing they were asking for. I'm baffled. I guess they only meant an Applebees or Olive Garden here and there and a few Payless shoe stores a Shoppers and a Target.
NH brings jobs, tourists, and upscale amenities. That's a win/win for everybody. We asked for it, some of us knew the sacrifices - namely more traffic. But hey, that's the sign of a successful development right? Lots of people. Look at University Town Center in Hyattsville. Is that what folks in Forestville want? A bunch of failing stores and NO foot or vehicle traffic to sustain the development? Sheesh.
We'll complain, but we have no problems going to Georgetown, Crystal City, Tyson's Corner, Rockville, and Alexandria to give them all of our money. And we look at their services and envy them while we sit here and stew about traffic. Wah wah wah. I don't have to drive all the way to Virgina to have fun, but this traffic is unbearable!
I agree. The funny thing is that the traffic is going to come regardless because populations will continue to increase. Another thing is that if there was no development or traffic, the area would be last on the list in terms of infrastructure improvements, public services (e.g. police stations, renovated library etc.)
The primary reason those things have been happening is because development has made it a priority. Believe me if there was no NH, they would be complaining about poor roads and lack of police because they were being overlooked for areas with more development. I would like to see how they would act when the area gets a metro line. I am sure there will be heat from those areas that fall within its path. Even though people have been clamouring for it forever.
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Wah wah wah. I don't have to drive all the way to Virgina to have fun, but this traffic is unbearable! 
