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Old 07-30-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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You keep using that word, but I'm not sure if you really understand the meaning behind that word or you just don't know the neighborhoods behind the National Harbor. There are some nice neighborhoods back there. Some of those houses are valued around a half a million dollar or more. There is no way you can 'gentrify' property that expensive in this county. Are there run down properties in some of those places? Of course, but that could apply to many neighborhoods in this area. I mean I have family that lives directly behind there and they are wealthy, so what are you gentrifying? There are no apartments, no low-income housing. To me when you use that word, it almost makes it seem like you using it for code to say get rid of the black people. I mean I could be wrong, but I honestly can't see anything else that would change from 'gentrifying' that area.
I agree that the word may be used out of context when referring to most of the SFH/TH communities in the surrounding area. However there are some quite a few rental communities(mostly on the opposite side of 210 and the Eastover area but close enough to have an impact) that need to be at least re-imagined and targeted towards a demographic that will take care of the property in their possession and that surrounds them. Also, though it shouldn't specifically target one ethnic group, the county could go a long way if they targeted another demographic with more disposable income (similar to what DC did U Street, H Street, Navy Yard etc.).
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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I agree that the word may be used out of context when referring to most of the SFH/TH communities in the surrounding area. However there are some quite a few rental communities(mostly on the opposite side of 210 and the Eastover area but close enough to have an impact) that need to be at least re-imagined and targeted towards a demographic that will take care of the property in their possession and that surrounds them. Also, though it shouldn't specifically target one ethnic group, the county could go a long way if they targeted another demographic with more disposable income (similar to what DC did U Street, H Street, Navy Yard etc.).
Those areas I can absolutely see them being gentrified, especially considering all the apartments in Eastover, but the houses directly behind the National Harbor, absolutely not. My understanding has been that they are trying to build up Oxon Hill and turn it to a downtown area, so they will primarily be heading in that direction, not in the direction of Fort Washington. It makes absolutely no sense to gentrify a predominantly SFH community unless those homes are just inadequate to live in, which they are not.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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Those areas I can absolutely see them being gentrified, especially considering all the apartments in Eastover, but the houses directly behind the National Harbor, absolutely not. My understanding has been that they are trying to build up Oxon Hill and turn it to a downtown area, so they will primarily be heading in that direction, not in the direction of Fort Washington. It makes absolutely no sense to gentrify a predominantly SFH community unless those homes are just inadequate to live in, which they are not.
Yeah from everything I have read that will not be the plan ( in regards to the SFHs) and they definitely need to do something about the apartment complexes in all of the surrounding areas. I also read that they wanted to rebuild Oxon Hill Road. Of course that wouldn't happen until the planned infrastructure (BRT/LRT and road expansion) occurs. Until the state places it on the books and green lights it, existing property owners are going to sit on their properties making little to no improvements. But to be honest that is understandable. I wouldn't make improvements knowing that the current road could expand into part of my property. Although PG has a plan to create a business district, they need to go a step further and (like you said previously) really plan it. Define what type of business district it will be so that you can begin aligning growth, identify ancillary businesses and development to appeal to that sector.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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man you guys want to get rid of the little bit of affordable housing thats left. Leave Eastover alone its not even that close to the harbor
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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man you guys want to get rid of the little bit of affordable housing thats left. Leave Eastover alone its not even that close to the harbor
It's not about what we want, it's about what they are trying to do. They want to change Oxon Hill, big time!
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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man you guys want to get rid of the little bit of affordable housing thats left. Leave Eastover alone its not even that close to the harbor
Echoing PGTitan. Eastover has been on the chopping block to revamp for a while. That effort was amplified with the opening of the National Harbor, National Stadium as well as the DHS campus currently being built in SE. Since Eastover fall between those two attractions there have been ongoing discussion to transform S. Capital into a gateway blvd complimented with walkable streets, and trollies. In regards to the DHS development, Eastover falls in an area that would be prime for contractors of DHS and other ancillary businesses. Probably will take a while but they are heading in that direction.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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As the world turns....................the drama heats up..........is it a surprise.........absolutely...........NOT!

Cordish seeks tax relief, other breaks for its casino - Maryland Politics - The Washington Post
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:25 AM
 
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As the world turns....................the drama heats up..........is it a surprise.........absolutely...........NOT!

Cordish seeks tax relief, other breaks for its casino - Maryland Politics - The Washington Post
Are they serious? Cordish has pulled out all the stops. I'm a bit peeved that they are trying to control what goes on in another county just because it affects their bottom line. Since when did the state or county become their welfare provider?

Sorry Cordish. You are a business wholly separate from the legislature. Any "demands" or requests you make amount to nothing more than lobbying. If your requests are not met are you going to close up shop? No. Pull your money out of some politicians pockets? Perhaps. But then the risk is put squarely on the politician who is caught voting based on campaign contributions. But what else is new?

Cordish chose to locate in Anne Arundel County. They had an opportunity to try PG. Did they ever consider PG? That county with prime real estate near DC? No. Probably not. So, now someone bigger and better has taken notice and they're throwing a fit. And since when did Anne Arundel or Montgomery County ever give a flip about the welfare of PG when it comes to jobs and businesses? If the state legislature gets to decide who prospers as a county and who doesn't regarding ANY private business venture, then that is plain foul and deserves appeal to the highest court. Adding a sixth casino is not a health hazard. It is not a safety issue. It won't pollute the air. It won't be a drain on state or county resources. What's the downside for the state or other counties? None. Maryland Live! will still make money and lots of it. Not as much as they would have liked without more competition, but hey, that's capitalism and a free market society. If you can't compete, then get out the game. Never in my life have I witnessed so many private firms crying to state and federal governments for handouts in the last 5 years. This is insane.

In every business venture there is risk of current and unseen competition. Why should the state come to the aid of a business that assumed this risk on their own? A state can make no promise to a business that it won't allow other businesses to enter the market. There is no law that states Cordish gets what it wants. All a state can do is provide incentives such as tax breaks, which it probably did for Cordish. This is insane. Cordish is really throwing a fit. So, a guess a second rate slummy racetrack casino is okay. But not something that would help to draw visitors from around the world to the state. Why PG right? Geeze.

Now that I think about it, COrdish hasn't said that they tried to locate in PG and were rejected. Then I could understand their angst because before, gambling was frowned upon in PG for the most part. Perhaps Cordish didn't think a casino could survive in PG? At any rate, what's done is done. Find out how to be the best casino in the region and you'll do fine Cordish. Stop whining.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:50 AM
 
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In fairness to Cordish and the other operators, including the one in Baltimore, Prince George's wasn't a location when they submitted their proposals a few years ago. That just came up in the last year.
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:24 AM
 
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In fairness to Cordish and the other operators, including the one in Baltimore, Prince George's wasn't a location when they submitted their proposals a few years ago. That just came up in the last year.
I was about to say the same thing. Aside from the audacity of his demands it is interesting that his true colors are starting to show now that the possibility of increased competition is a greater reality. It was not that long ago that he we touting that he was not and will not make any demands for tax cuts or anything else. Now his drastic change is making him look hypocritical and greedy.
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