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To be even more serious, the true definition of a ghetto doesn't even include African Americans. There can be Irish ghettos, Italian ghettos, Asian ghettos, and even white ghettos. Not sure how all of a sudden African Americans became the poster child for ghettos. White ghettos still do exist.
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white ghettos in philly, they are hulkamania runnin wild
NE and SW philly
I guess I must be a "forking moron" then because I am at a loss. Can you or the op that posted explain how Wall Street is a ghetto? Or how "dudes" standing on a corner and criminal activity equate to wall street? I mean we had the largest financial collapse since the great depression and from what I can tell with the exception of the madoff brothers no one has been charged or has gone to prison. Can you articulate what rules, regs, laws have been broken? Or do just like throwing juvenile insults around?
To be honest I think this would explain Washington DC more accurately since had the multiple federal regulatory agencies been doing their jobs and enforcing regulations that were already on the books the collapse may not have occurred.
That's the point! A seventeen year old steals $2.00 worth of stuff from the convenience store or hangs around the street corner exchanges a nickel bag of dope, he gets slammed for 25 years and a white-collar criminal dupes wall street (us) or any workplace for $millions - , he gets to walk around free using the same stolen money to buy the best defense to continue to live free.
I am not supporting the 17 year old stealing anything not his but just look at the proportionality and equivalency of the crimes committed by both people and the rich and well-off and well-connected always gets free - free from society actually seeing him/her as a criminal while the 17 year old is seen as a "dude" from the hood up to no good.
As far as crimes committed or "rules, regs, laws broken " by wall street? Wall Street employed PhDs in Math and Financial Engineering to come up with complex loan formulas (credit default swaps) that made it difficult to pinpoint who the lender is in mortgage loans - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 1. Then the bank goes on a campaign to convince the public about the benefits of owning a home but hiding from the public about how lenders were no longer easy to know - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 2. The same banks sent in sales people who convinced people to borrow and buy houses way out of their salary and debt ratio with zero down payment - coaching buyers on how to forge salary/income papers to present to qualify - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 3. Then when the bubble busted, the same banks asked the public (us all)to bail them out with $billions while at the same time foreclosing and chasing people out of the same homes they helped them buy and pocketing THEIR MONEY UPFRONT- RULE & REGULATION BREAK 4. While getting BAIL-OUT money from us, they were giving themselves bonuses for what? - job well-done? - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 5
If you make such a criminal decision in your workplace as the little guy, would you free? Would you get a raise or a bonus? NO!
And you're right! I blame Washington DC for not enforcing the rules/regulations on the books but I blame REPUBLICANS (Bush Admin) more for their "regulation is bad for business" Reaganomics campaign that cut funding for regulators.
Why do we see criminals more through the lens of class and color? Why's meth crime seen with sympathy, rehabilitation and as a disease but crack cocaine is punished severely with long prison terms with terms as crack-babies and all that? The answer is class, race, ethnicity and skin color.
That's the point! As far as crimes committed or "rules, regs, laws broken " by wall street? Wall Street employed PhDs in Math and Financial Engineering to come up with complex loan formulas (credit default swaps) that made it difficult to pinpoint who the lender is in mortgage loans - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 1. Then the bank goes on a campaign to convince the public about the benefits of owning a home but hiding from the public about how lenders were no longer easy to know - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 2. The same banks sent in sales people who convinced people to borrow and buy houses way out of their salary and debt ratio with zero down payment - coaching buyers on how to forge salary/income papers to present to qualify - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 3. Then when the bubble busted, the same banks asked the public (us all)to bail them out with $billions while at the same time foreclosing and chasing people out of the same homes they helped them buy and pocketing THEIR MONEY UPFRONT- RULE & REGULATION BREAK 4. While getting BAIL-OUT money from us, they were giving themselves bonuses for what? - job well-done? - RULE & REGULATION BREAK 5
If you make such a criminal decision in your workplace as the little guy, would you free? Would you get a raise or a bonus? NO!
And you're right! I blame Washington DC for not enforcing the rules/regulations on the books but I blame REPUBLICANS (Bush Admin) more for their "regulation is bad for business" Reaganomics campaign that cut funding for regulators.
Why do we see criminals more through the lens of class and color? Why's meth crime seen with sympathy, rehabilitation and as a disease but crack cocaine is punished severely with long prison terms with terms as crack-babies and all that? The answer is class, race, ethnicity and skin color.
You did not identify one regulation or one law that was broken. How is it criminal activity if no law has been broken? May be its bad business decisions, does that equate to breaking the law? I see you blame banks and republicans. I find that interesting that the person who signed the loan for the easy money shares no blame. How about the Democrats? You have both a president and in the 1st 2 years of him holding office FULL majority in both the house and senate yet who went to jail if the laws were broken? You also had a former Democrate Governor from NJ Corzine destroy an investment bank losing millions of dollars YEARS after the melt down, but nothing happened to him. He has not been charged with a crime.
You did not identify one regulation or one law that was broken. How is it criminal activity if no law has been broken? May be its bad business decisions, does that equate to breaking the law? I see you blame banks and republicans. I find that interesting that the person who signed the loan for the easy money shares no blame. How about the Democrats? You have both a president and in the 1st 2 years of him holding office FULL majority in both the house and senate yet who went to jail if the laws were broken? You also had a former Democrate Governor from NJ Corzine destroy an investment bank losing millions of dollars YEARS after the melt down, but nothing happened to him. He has not been charged with a crime.
One regulation that was broken was that regulators were never there, THANKS to Republican Administration that always want to do away with regulations. That was why wall street ran wild into experimenting with complex financial engineering.
The financial crises took place under whose watch again? BUSH
When and under who was the bail-out discussed, agreed and voted on? BUSH
Which administration pushed Americans more toward homeownership? BUSH
Which administration relaxed regulation that led to the "anything goes" wall street experimentation with complex mortgage banking systems? BUSH
Do I blame Democrats? YES, for going along and voting along, the same way they voted along for Iraq war. Yes, Democrats always rally around whomever the president at the time of crises is,putting aside their better developed and balanced cerebral caution. And they get taken as in Iraq war vote and bail out vote.
Life should not always bed seen from a legal standpoint but also from a moral one. You try to justify that no laws were broken but the US went into the worst recession ever, close the great depression of the 1930s. Millions lost jobs, high unemployment, life-savings, rampant suicide, etc, and that's nothing if laws were not broken?
You brought Obama in the discussion. Just tell me how he shares in the blame other than working hard to revive the broken economy he inherited? You also brought in Corzine in the discussion. If he's responsible, book him. There are many people to be booked who almost brought down the economy and like you, I have been waiting for them to be booked. I am with you on that however, compare Repubs and Dems administrations side by side in terms of progress for the American people and tell me which admin always brought progress that benefited the people more.
Did Obama or Clinton took us to war on a credit card over WMD LIES? No! BUSH did.
Did Clinton leave a surplus for BUSH upon leaving office? Yes! What did BUSH do with it?
If you have been following economic news, the deficit is reducing under Obama - reducing faster than it has been in 12 years.
Do you know what my greatest fear is? That if Republicans continue their obstruction China, Japan and Germany will overtake the US and that will so sad!
TS, if you want to see the "ghetto" I have two row houses in bmore that are two blocks ovef from "the Ghetto". As in The Wire type ghetto with shoot outs that dont make the news and crack houses.
There's a lot of WWII "workforce housing" (historically inhabited by "lower middle class" or very "working class" income residents) in Wheaton. But with the addition of Costco, the new apartments with the Safeway at the bottom, the apartments where the church used to be on Georgia Avenue (Solaire), as well as that new townhouse development going up on Georgia Avenue south of the mall, you'd be crazy to say that Wheaton is "ghetto." There were problems 10-20 years ago. Some folks may ACT ghetto, but the area has changed rapidly even in the past 3 years, and the MoCo police are even more visible in the Wheaton/North Kensington/Kensington Heights area. I fully expect Wheaton to lose a lot of its "diversity" in the next few years. With gentrification, I think less affluent renters will be pushed out to Glenmont or outer ring suburbs (think Montgomery Village, Gaithersburg, or Germantown for instance), or to less affluent areas of PG County. Also, you can bet that those storefront shops on Georgia Avenue will have their rent jacked up (if they don't own the property already), so you may lose some of the "local flavor" that Wheaton is known for. The area will probably be less "ghetto" too (whatever that means!); Wheaton certainly isn't the type of "ghetto" that you may find in some areas of Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Chicago, LA, Houston, Atlanta, etc. Get real.
Definitely not. The schools are unfairly labeled sub-par, but in my opinion, as a mother who has sent my children to Arcola and Kemp Mill elementary schools and E. Brooke Lee middle school (and now I work at Kennedy high school), I can honestly say that we have a lot of the best teachers and administrators you can find.
In fact, Lee middle school has been consistently voted as one of the safest schools in the entire county, at times at #1, under the excellent leadership of Principal Joe Rubens.
There are challenging academic programs in all of the schools, culminating in Kennedy's two signatureprograms - The Leadership Training Institute and the very challenging I.B. program. There is something for all of the children in the Down County Consortium, whereby students have a choice to attend one of 5 high schools; Blair, Northwood, Kennedy, Wheaton, or Einstein, based on their interests, their abilities, or both.
Look, I just hate it how everybody thinks that Wheaton and Silver Spring are ghetto. They aren't even in comparison to Bethesda. They are much more ethnically diverse. They are more crime ridden. They may have some dangerous neighborhoods. That does not mean they are ghetto. They are suburbs. Okay, not even PG county is ghetto. It's poorest areas have the same median household income as the USA. It is dangerous. Sure. The only area that is actually kind of ghetto in the DC area is southern DC- across the Anacostia, and if this even counts: parts of Baltimore.
I fully expect Wheaton to lose a lot of its "diversity" in the next few years. With gentrification, I think less affluent renters will be pushed out to Glenmont or outer ring suburbs.
I agree with you...(mostly). Wheaton is losing its diversity. Hispanic people are going to become the majority. Not white people. If you look at the stats, Wheaton started out as a community with demographics similar to North Bethesda. It has almost shifted completely. If white people will get pushed out to the outer ring suburbs, I don't expect them to be pushed out to Glenmont, I expect them to be pushed out to Olney and Sandy Spring. Definitely not Glenmont, which is also becoming increasingly Hispanic, and is at the peak of its diversity.
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