Are Republicans in this state clueless? (Secretary: college, cabinet, taxes)

[PhenomenalAJ]

Originally Posted by motoreater

"Religious nuts who want to push their agenda on regular Americans rather than the "Taxed Enough Already" movement they claim to be"?

Really?? Even black TEA Party members?

I can't wait to see how many more Roberts BHO can pop in there.

What black TEA Party members? The trolls on City-Data who claim to be black who shall remain nameless? You seem to have a poor grasp of politics, Bush put Roberts on the Supreme Court, Obama wouldn't appoint someone like Rightie Roberts.

[phlinak]

Originally Posted by InvaderBryce

I've always said that in order for the Republican Party to actually get the black vote, they need to engage us. Michael Steele tried to engage us, but he went about it the wrong way. So it goes without saying that the GOP seems like they either just don't care or they're clueless about doing it.

What so hard about going to some of these churches and spreading the "good word" on social issues? Why can't the GOP go to community centers, cookouts (you heard right) and other places where we socialize and sell their message of family values? Does the GOP not understand that we are the most religious racial minority in this country and that we could be a key voting block on some of these social issues?

With the rise of the Black Middle (and Upper Middle) Class, why hasn't the GOP gone into the suburban areas and engaged the masses with their message of limited government, self reliance and low taxes? Do they not understand that some of that would play VERY well with some of us people?

I've met black people who's views are squarely in line with the GOP but have said they'll never vote with them because they don't want to make an effort to appeal to us or other minorities; I won't even get into the fact that the party still use's code words to disparage black people. I hope that one day they won't totally write us off and will actually make an effort to appeal to us; especially those of us who are upset at the Democratic Party's recent jog to the left.

What say you; is the GOP really that clueless or have they simply given up on us? If you're a Republican, preferably a black Republican, how do you feel about this and do you think it's possible for the Republican Party to court the black vote?

The short answer to your question is yes, as a whole, they are clueless. There are individuals, like Michael Steele and even Bobby Jindal (to a smaller extent), who know what time it is but the vast majority don't know where or how to start and more importantly, they don't really want to reach out to us because I honestly don't believe that they want us around them. Yes, many of us have some moderate, if not conservative political leanings but, as a people, I don't think we are necessarily monolithic in our beliefs and views. We, like whites, tend to cross the political (and more importantly) the economic spectrum, as you so eloquently mentioned.

There are many of us who would possibly find a political home in the Republican Party again, but only if we are accepted as equal members and participants and I believe that is where the rub is, because they don't want to share the power.

If you want evidence, look at how Michael Steele was treated as the RNC chairman. Under his leadership, the GOP regained control of the House in the 2010 mid-term election and how was he rewarded? The GOP called him an ineffectual failure and voted him out. Now after witnessing that travesty, what black person, in their right mind, would want anything to do with the GOP?

[Gunluvver2]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

I've met similar Black people but they'll never vote for the GOP in any appreciable numbers because they're too invested in racial solidarity. Also while many may have conservative social views they tend to hold socialistic economic views.

I am an older White Male. I have voted for GOP presidential candidates since 1968, when I first was eligible to vote.. My first choice to run against Obama was Herman Cain. He must have been a real threat to the powers that be because the News Media sure did a number on him.

GL2

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by phlinak

The short answer to your question is yes, as a whole, they are clueless. There are individuals, like Michael Steele and even Bobby Jindal (to a smaller extent), who know what time it is but the vast majority don't know where or how to start and more importantly, they don't really want to reach out to us because I honestly don't believe that they want us around them. Yes, many of us have some moderate, if not conservative political leanings but, as a people, I don't think we are necessarily monolithic in our beliefs and views. We, like whites, tend to cross the political (and more importantly) the economic spectrum, as you so eloquently mentioned.

I'm sorry there is no evidence to date to suggest that Blacks are not a monolith politically. Upper Middle Class Blacks are just as likely to vote Democrat as Blacks on welfare. Blacks who are college educated are just as likely to vote for Democrats as Blacks who dropped out in the 8th grade. Mitt Romney reached out to Blacks but was met with boos and hate. In fact one of his first post-Primary stops was in a poor Black neighborhood. Maybe if he received a better reception he would have continued.

Hecklers mar Romney’s visit to inner-city charter school in Philadelphia - The Washington Post

There are many of us who would possibly find a political home in the Republican Party again, but only if we are accepted as equal members and participants and I believe that is where the rub is, because they don't want to share the power.

Bunch of hooey. If you like the views you join, if not don't. No one is going to prevent you from joining the GOP

If you want evidence, look at how Michael Steele was treated as the RNC chairman. Under his leadership, the GOP regained control of the House in the 2010 mid-term election and how was he rewarded? The GOP called him an ineffectual failure and voted him out. Now after witnessing that travesty, what black person, in their right mind, would want anything to do with the GOP?

Any criticism of Blacks is inherently racist. Black folks want positions of power but don't want the criticism that comes with it. This is why we get stuck with the Jack Johnsons, because criticizing a black pol is seen as going against the race.

Steele would never have been chairman if his race was a issue.

[phlinak]

Originally Posted by reiflame

So terribly sorry that I care that Republicans think that legislating my uterus is more important than my health. But hey, at least you can help me take care of my rape babies! Or not, because then I'd be a welfare queen, right?

The GOP can't get voters like me because they've been taken over by idiots like you. And just in case you forgot, the last major amnesty came under your messiah, Reagan. Betcha Fox News forgot to mention that, huh?

You go, girl!!

[Vlajos]

Are Republicans clueless?

There, I fixed that question for you.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by reiflame

So terribly sorry that I care that Republicans think that legislating my uterus is more important than my health. But hey, at least you can help me take care of my rape babies! Or not, because then I'd be a welfare queen, right?

The GOP can't get voters like me because they've been taken over by idiots like you. And just in case you forgot, the last major amnesty came under your messiah, Reagan. Betcha Fox News forgot to mention that, huh?

Well, to be fair to republicans, they believe you have magic lady parts that stop rape babies from happening.

[InvaderBryce]

Originally Posted by Gunluvver2

I am an older White Male. I have voted for GOP presidential candidates since 1968, when I first was eligible to vote.. My first choice to run against Obama was Herman Cain. He must have been a real threat to the powers that be because the News Media sure did a number on him.

GL2

Uhh no, the media did a number on him because he was a complete fool who had a tax plan taken directly from Sim City 4 and didn't know what the hell he was talking about for the most part. If you think Cain could have beaten Obama, then I have swampland in Kansas to sell you.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by InvaderBryce

Uhh no, the media did a number on him because he was a complete fool who had a tax plan taken directly from Sim City 4 and didn't know what the hell he was talking about for the most part. If you think Cain could have beaten Obama, then I have swampland in Kansas to sell you.

Herman Cain wasn't going to win a single republican primary, let alone the nomination or the Presidency.

[phlinak]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

I'm sorry there is no evidence to date to suggest that Blacks are not a monolith politically. Upper Middle Class Blacks are just as likely to vote Democrat as Blacks on welfare. Blacks who are college educated are just as likely to vote for Democrats as Blacks who dropped out in the 8th grade. Mitt Romney reached out to Blacks but was met with boos and hate. In fact one of his first post-Primary stops was in a poor Black neighborhood. Maybe if he received a better reception he would have continued.

Hecklers mar Romney’s visit to inner-city charter school in Philadelphia - The Washington Post



Bunch of hooey. If you like the views you join, if not don't. No one is going to prevent you from joining the GOP


Any criticism of Blacks is inherently racist. Black folks want positions of power but don't want the criticism that comes with it. This is why we get stuck with the Jack Johnsons, because criticizing a black pol is seen as going against the race.

Steele would never have been chairman if his race was a issue.

Gee, after your reading your rant, I wonder why blacks wouldn't feel welcome by your GOP.

Maybe if Romney weren't such a flip-flopping, disingenuous, and condescending jerk-off, he would have fared better.