Why is DC metro Maryland so much better than DC metro Virginia (Baltimore: transplants, houses)

[MDAllstar]

Northern Virginia stands to be hit much harder than any place in the nation when budget cuts go forward this year. The same entity that has made northern Virginia prosper so much is the same entity that will sadly bring NOVA to it's knee's. There isn't a place anywhere in the entire nation that will feel it worse than northern Virginia.

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

LOL I think you're a troll.

The Washington Post did a detail study on the matter and NoVa is far more diverse than Maryland especially PG. Diverse doesn't mean no White people.

Prince George?s County: Growing, and growing more segregated, census shows - Washington Post

You would have a point if the DC metro area was only PG county, however it includes several counties.

Your link is irrelevant.

[JD984]

Originally Posted by slowlane3

Cry Havoc, you can't be serious that NoVA is not diverse. Have you even actually been in any public schools in NoVA recently ? Throughout the NoVA region, they are extremely diverse, in a balanced sense. Around 40% of Fairfax County's current population is Black, Hispanic, or Asian. The demographics you describe, were more true 40 years or more ago.

During the years I lived in Pr Geo Co MD (outside the Beltway), the schools for many miles around were 95% African-American (by actual statistical measures) - thus not diverse at all.

He just gets bored when the bowl games are over. It's not really a thread to be taken seriously, particularly the suggestion that the diversity in NoVa is "nowhere near" what you'd find somewhere in Maryland.

I don't know which local jurisdiction takes top honors for diversity, but locally the highest concentrations of Asians are in Fairfax, of Africans (rather than AAs) are in Alexandria, and of Hispanics are in Prince William. Schools in places like Montgomery and Fairfax that, in today's terms, aren't considered particularly diverse (because, say, they are 65-70% white) would have been considered a virtual melting pot three or four decades ago.

[cry_havoc]

Originally Posted by JEB77

He just gets bored when the bowl games are over. It's not really a thread to be taken seriously, particularly the suggestion that the diversity in NoVa is "nowhere near" what you'd find somewhere in Maryland.

I don't know which local jurisdiction takes top honors for diversity, but locally the highest concentrations of Asians are in Fairfax, of Africans (rather than AAs) are in Alexandria, and of Hispanics are in Prince William. Schools in places like Montgomery and Fairfax that, in today's terms, aren't considered particularly diverse (because, say, they are 65-70% white) would have been considered a virtual melting pot three or four decades ago.

Nova is diverse, for sure, it is just not DC metro Maryland. You are also focusing on one thing. Maryland is not better just because it is more diverse. Several posters of listed many reasons why it is better. You dont need to take this thread seriously, and I would prefer that people who dont want to list reasons why MD is better to not participate. I am not interested in a versus thread, because there is no comparison. We are stating facts. Dont take this personally, I think NOVA is a great place, just no Maryland.

[dkf747]

Originally Posted by cry_havoc

You would have a point if the DC metro area was only PG county, however it includes several counties.

Your link is irrelevant.

I was wondering why he focuses only on PG myself. There's an even larger county right next door to PG that is completely ignored.

[Zimar]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

LOL I think you're a troll.

The Washington Post did a detail study on the matter and NoVa is far more diverse than Maryland especially PG. Diverse doesn't mean no White people.

Prince George?s County: Growing, and growing more segregated, census shows - Washington Post

I thought that white people were moving in to PG County! Oh, Washington Post, you confuse me so with your mixed messages!!

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by JEB77

Are we talking states or the DC metro? Locally, the best-educated jurisdiction in terms of the percentage of residents with bachelor's and professional degrees is Arlington.

If thats evidence Va has done a better job (on education? development?) than Md, does it not follow that Arlington has done a better job than Fairfax, and than Loudoun?

[brooklynborndad]

Originally Posted by JEB77

Here's a map showing where underwater mortgages are concentrated in the region:

Delinquent mortgages in Washington Area - The Washington Post

It seems to be consistent with your last observation.

Then by the same token, Arlington, Fairfax, and Loudoun have a better approach than PWC and Stafford. And of course MoCo and Howard than PG and Charles.

Despite in each case, similar state approaches to business and economic development, etc.

Or it may just be that its better to be in the "favored quarter" - the area in every metro thats historically favored by the wealthy, and tends to draw the most employment (when that employments leaves the metro CBD). In Greater Washington the favored quarter is NW, along the Potomac - its upper NW DC to the part of MoCo SW of I270 - and its North Arlington, North Fairfax, and Loudoun.

that Fairfax overall is doing better than MoCo lately, esp compared to the past, is interesting. It may have to do with approaches to development, but I think a lot of it is due to the age of the housing stock, and resulting differerences in demographics.

[adelphi_sky]

I think what most people forget is that VA is propped up a considerable amount by the military industry. This includes the Tidewater area as well. As the need for a smaller military becomes more evident, VA will loose a considerable economic engine for NOVA and the Tidewater area. And those areas who had to survive on other industries will for the most part, be minimally affected by the military cutbacks. To NOVA's credit, they have a substantial IT base. This will slow the bleeding. It is Maryland's opportunity to build on the new military strategy which will increasingly involve cyber terrorism and cyber war which is very real. I believe this will create a balance in the next 10 to 15 years between the jurisdictions as far as jobs and economic activity.....IF the military cuts are real and deep as people are suggesting. It will be interesting to see how VA handles the transformation in the coming years.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by brooklynborndad

Then by the same token, Arlington, Fairfax, and Loudoun have a better approach than PWC and Stafford. And of course MoCo and Howard than PG and Charles.

Despite in each case, similar state approaches to business and economic development, etc.

Or it may just be that its better to be in the "favored quarter" - the area in every metro thats historically favored by the wealthy, and tends to draw the most employment (when that employments leaves the metro CBD). In Greater Washington the favored quarter is NW, along the Potomac - its upper NW DC to the part of MoCo SW of I270 - and its North Arlington, North Fairfax, and Loudoun.

that Fairfax overall is doing better than MoCo lately, esp compared to the past, is interesting. It may have to do with approaches to development, but I think a lot of it is due to the age of the housing stock, and resulting differerences in demographics.

You compare like with like in this case the appropriate comparison is between PWC and Stafford to PG and Charles mainly because of the reasons you cite. When you make such a comparison PG and Northern Charles fair poorly.