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[scorch666]

Originally Posted by Baghead

They completely redid the road and it's still just one lane. Thanks for engineering more gridlock.

The one thing i like is the bicycle lane going up oxon hill. I use it to commute to alexandria. If you are a avid cyclist you can really get a good deal on a house. My commute to work on a bike is 30 mins.

[UrbanScholar]

Originally Posted by Baghead

They completely redid the road and it's still just one lane. Thanks for engineering more gridlock.

The county wanted two lanes but the surrounding community (at the time) didn't want them to expand the lanes to more than the one lane each way. They didn't want it to become another 210. They were strongly against it which is why they kept one lane going each way and just added the roundabouts and the bike lanes.

[PG Supporter]

Originally Posted by UrbanScholar

The county wanted two lanes but the surrounding community (at the time) didn't want them to expand the lanes to more than the one lane each way. They didn't want it to become another 210. They were strongly against it which is why they kept one lane going each way and just added the roundabouts and the bike lanes.

This is typical. To be great, you/we have to endure some growing pains. Its not fun, but that's what it takes to be great.

[PG Supporter]

Originally Posted by scorch666

The traffic going north and south on oxon hill rd is insane. I think people would not want to live in this area just based on this. Its becoming worse with the construction of the casino.

I can see your point, but I disagree. If traffic is bad because a place is "happening", folks will adjust their patterns and habits, and grin and bear it. If its just bad, with nothing to really show for it, then I think folks will reconsider living here. Traffic is bad in DC, Bethesda, and parts of NOVA. That doesn't discourage people from moving there. I get what you're saying, but I look at it as, a gift and curse.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by PG Supporter

I can see your point, but I disagree. If traffic is bad because a place is "happening", folks will adjust their patterns and habits, and grin and bear it. If its just bad, with nothing to really show for it, then I think folks will reconsider living here. Traffic is bad in DC, Bethesda, and parts of NOVA. That doesn't discourage people from moving there. I get what you're saying, but I look at it as, a gift and curse.

I've been saying this for years.

[scorch666]

Originally Posted by PG Supporter

I can see your point, but I disagree. If traffic is bad because a place is "happening", folks will adjust their patterns and habits, and grin and bear it. If its just bad, with nothing to really show for it, then I think folks will reconsider living here. Traffic is bad in DC, Bethesda, and parts of NOVA. That doesn't discourage people from moving there. I get what you're saying, but I look at it as, a gift and curse.

I would have to disagree. The traffic in DC, Bethesda is bad. But those areas do not just have a few selections of roads going into one place. The Indian head is a bottle neck situation that seems to be unfixable.

Also the traffic going into d.c. is bad, but once you are past silver spring the traffic gets much better. I've done commuting from the MD suburbs to Rosslyn, Bethesda and Silver Spring over the part years. It is better than the commute for drivers in Oxon Hill and Fort Washington.

[PG Supporter]

Originally Posted by scorch666

I would have to disagree. The traffic in DC, Bethesda is bad. But those areas do not just have a few selections of roads going into one place. The Indian head is a bottle neck situation that seems to be unfixable.

Also the traffic going into d.c. is bad, but once you are past silver spring the traffic gets much better. I've done commuting from the MD suburbs to Rosslyn, Bethesda and Silver Spring over the part years. It is better than the commute for drivers in Oxon Hill and Fort Washington.

If Im not mistaken, isnt there working being done on 210 right now? Driving past the apartments on 210, you can see the backyards of folks being impeded on, in an effort to widen 210. Unless they are building a flyover or something.

As for the commuting, I definitely hear you, but all the county can do, is what they are doing now. And that’s try to make improvements. But the neighbors have to be willing to allow for growing pains also. Or giving up some of their backyards to make it happen. Everyone wont be able to get everything they want.

[UrbanScholar]

Originally Posted by PG Supporter

If Im not mistaken, isnt there working being done on 210 right now? Driving past the apartments on 210, you can see the backyards of folks being impeded on, in an effort to widen 210. Unless they are building a flyover or something.

As for the commuting, I definitely hear you, but all the county can do, is what they are doing now. And that’s try to make improvements. But the neighbors have to be willing to allow for growing pains also. Or giving up some of their backyards to make it happen. Everyone wont be able to get everything they want.

They are building the first in a series of overpasses/flyovers. There are no plans to widen 210 but improve the flow by eliminating the stoplights from 495 to 228. To your point, with any development, the developments are going to feel pain before significant road improvements come. I used to work in Tyson before the new bridge was built and commuting to and from there was excruciating. Apparently its still just as bad as it was a decade ago according to some of my friends/neighbors who still make that trip. Even with the bridge and the silver line. As discussed before as much as we want changes to happen overnight, it often takes several years (or decades) for transportation and infrastructure to catch up. On a similar note, It will be interesting to see how the proposed schedule changes will impact MGM and other projects coming online over the next 5 years.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by UrbanScholar

They are building the first in a series of overpasses/flyovers. There are no plans to widen 210 but improve the flow by eliminating the stoplights from 495 to 228. To your point, with any development, the developments are going to feel pain before significant road improvements come. I used to work in Tyson before the new bridge was built and commuting to and from there was excruciating. Apparently its still just as bad as it was a decade ago according to some of my friends/neighbors who still make that trip. Even with the bridge and the silver line. As discussed before as much as we want changes to happen overnight, it often takes several years (or decades) for transportation and infrastructure to catch up. On a similar note, It will be interesting to see how the proposed schedule changes will impact MGM and other projects coming online over the next 5 years.

It's certainly a catch-22. If your neighborhood becomes popular, people will move there, businesses will come. This creates traffic that you may not want. If it were me, I'd take the traffic with the amenities rather than nothing and having to drive miles to shop of have dinner. For alot of residents, National Harbor is a nice family 20 minute bike ride away. No car needed. In my opinion, that adds value to a neighborhood despite the traffic.

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