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Old 06-15-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I can only hope this post was completely tongue-in-cheek.

Look like Dubai? The day DC begins to resemble Dubai, an unfathomable tragedy has occured.
DC should never look like Dubai. That might be more suitable for a southern or western U.S. city. ;-)

I wouldn't mind, however, if DC really built itself up more like London and Paris in terms of density. A mix of European and American is the way to go for DC.

It's about history, not skyscrapers. It's probably headed that way eventually anyway.

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Old 06-15-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Cesspool of human excreta aka DC
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I can only hope this post was completely tongue-in-cheek.

Look like Dubai? The day DC begins to resemble Dubai, an unfathomable tragedy has occured.

No I am being serious. Why should we have to endure higher cost of rents, cramped, old apartments and rowhouses just so DC can look all quaint? Remove the height restriction, build skyscrapers and watch the population and business boom like anything. We need to move with the times.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:16 AM
 
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this has been floated before but what about a skyscraper district far away from downtown?
Yeah like Tyson's Corner.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:20 AM
 
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No I am being serious. Why should we have to endure higher cost of rents, cramped, old apartments and rowhouses just so DC can look all quaint? Remove the height restriction, build skyscrapers and watch the population and business boom like anything. We need to move with the times.
Yeah New York really shows that with high rise buildings you get lower rents, newer buildings and more spacious apartments. Oh wait, you don't.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Dudes in brown flip-flops
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No I am being serious. Why should we have to endure higher cost of rents, cramped, old apartments and rowhouses just so DC can look all quaint? Remove the height restriction, build skyscrapers and watch the population and business boom like anything. We need to move with the times.
Because as a society (or at least as a metropolitan area) we've decided that preserving historic buildings or neighborhoods is a worthwhile goal. It's not an unusual decision, either - you don't see a lot of European countries bulldozing their historic neighborhoods (and if you do see a modern building surrounded by old buildings, chances are the "empty" space for the new building was courtesy of a bomb).

Arlington doesn't have height restrictions, and while its residential buildings aren't skyscrapers, they're taller than what you'd find in DC. Permitting all these tall buildings alone the Orange and Blue lines has increased Arlington's population, but it certainly hasn't made Arlington more affordable (I wish it had!).
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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No I am being serious. Why should we have to endure higher cost of rents, cramped, old apartments and rowhouses just so DC can look all quaint? Remove the height restriction, build skyscrapers and watch the population and business boom like anything. We need to move with the times.
They actually tried it already. Southwest DC. Not skycrapers, but tall office building and apartments. The population did not boom and business did not follow.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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Revisit the history of washington to find your answer...........
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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this has been floated before but what about a skyscraper district far away from downtown?
If you look at the market in Rosslyn and other places in NoVa, I think its questionable whether going the market for much taller buildings is as strong as one might think. In real estate its the floor area ratio that matters, and a 20 story building that fills its lot isn't that much less dense in terms of FAR than a 40 story building with a big plaza.
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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No I am being serious. Why should we have to endure higher cost of rents, cramped, old apartments and rowhouses just so DC can look all quaint?
Compare NYC's real estate costs and apartment sizes to DC and get back to me.

For that matter, go compare real estate costs in Boston or San Francisco. Or Arlington and Bethesda. You'll not find a corelation between building height limits and real estate values, the equation is far more complex than that.

The fact is that there is a substantial amount of undeveloped or underutilized land throughout the District, which for years had real estate values that were nowhere near as high as they are now. You're looking for something to blame because you can't afford a place in Dupont, but I've got news for you: you couldn't afford a place in Dupont if there were 40 story towers there either, and the city as a whole would be worse off for it.

If you want New York or Dubai, move to New York or Dubai.
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:59 PM
 
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Really, does it even have a downtown area??
Actually, downtown is one of the most vibrant around. Only NYC and Chicago are clearly better.


Now, that being said, I do think its time for DC to develop a skyline, only its in Congress' hands so it won't happen.

I would like to see it evolve into a true world class city, which includes skyscrapers, bright lights, and more commerce.

Unfortunately, too many transients get vocal when such things arise and shout such proposals down because they view it as the Nation's Capital and thus treat it as a "symbol" which is different than how someone would view their hometown.
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