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Old 10-24-2010, 06:14 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Instead of creating mutiple threads for the Mid Atlantic states i created one in the DC forum. Since DC is the center of the Regions network you get the thread. I took these plans form other Transit bloggers , DOTs , and my plans and merged them into one. I'll break it down for you guys.... The Map is best viewed on Terrain mode.

Washington DC
Current Network : 106 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 4 mi
added miles of Streetcars : 52 mi
added miles of BRT : 15 mi
added miles of Regional Rail : 0 mi
added miles of Metro Rail : 12 mi


Maryland

Current Network : 217 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 80 mi
added miles of Streetcars : 16 mi
added miles of BRT : 30 mi
added miles of Regional Rail : 140 mi
added miles of Metro Rail : 12 mi


Northern Virgina

Current Network : 117 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 0
added miles of Streetcars : 52 mi
added miles of BRT : 41 mi
added miles of Regional Rail : 112 mi
added miles of Metro Rail : 22 mi


Delaware

Current Network : 15 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 0
added miles of Streetcars : 7 mi
added miles of BRT : 0
added miles of Regional Rail : 224 mi
added miles of Metro Rail : 0


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Planned / Proposed


Maryland

Planned

Annapolis line
La Plata line
MARC ext to Hagerstown
MARC extension to Wilmington

White Marsh Subway extension
Baltimore Yellow line LRT
Baltimore Red line LRT

BWI People Mover
Purple line LRT

Proposed

Annapolis BRT
Fredrick Tram 1 & 2
Cross-City Streetcar


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Delaware

Planned

Downstate line
MARC extension to Wilmington


Proposed

Salisbury option for Downstate Rail
Wilmington Tram 1,2,3

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Virgina

Planned

Culpepper line
Haymarket line

Metrorail Silver line
Pentagon-Arlington Streetcar
Columbia Pike streetcar


Proposed

Metro pink line
National Harbor - Tysons Corner Light Rail / streetcar
Route 123 Streetcar
Arlington Tram 3

Leesburg / Dulles BRT

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Washington DC

Planned

DC Trams 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7

Proposed

DC Trams 8 , 9
Leesburg / Dulles BRT
Annapolis BRT


NOVA-DC-MD-DE 2050 Rail / Transit plan - Google Maps

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Old 10-24-2010, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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won't happen
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:15 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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won't happen
Why not , half of it is in the planning stages or UC...
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Some ******** of a politician will derail (ba-dum-tsh) some of it, or tie it up in red tape.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:54 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Some ******** of a politician will derail (ba-dum-tsh) some of it, or tie it up in red tape.
Yea , our country has a huge red tape problem , but i like to be optimistic.
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Old 10-25-2010, 08:57 AM
 
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Why not , half of it is in the planning stages or UC...
There is a huge difference between planning and having a plan fully funded and contruction starting.

All mass transit agencies make aggressive, B.S. long term plans that will never come to fruition, and they know it.

They do it to garner political and public support for the existing transportation network, especially for areas that are not currently served well by public transportation.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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won't happen
Source?
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:35 AM
 
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There is a huge difference between planning and having a plan fully funded and contruction starting.

All mass transit agencies make aggressive, B.S. long term plans that will never come to fruition, and they know it.

They do it to garner political and public support for the existing transportation network, especially for areas that are not currently served well by public transportation.
In most regions I would agree with you, but the DC area has truly bought into transit as a viable piece of our transportation system and proven, often driven by private leadership, that transit can get envisioned and built to the extent it was originally conceived.

The Metro system was designed back in the 60s and saw through to completion 40 years later almost exactly as it was envisioned. In contrast, Baltimore had a similar grand subway vision very much like DC's that got undermined by politicians and lack of vision / political will, eventually becoming the mess of piecemeal lines that got built whenever a politician could cobble money together and put his name on it.

But, the private sector led the first infill station at New York Ave and the Silver Line currently being built. VRE and MARC were conceived and became reality. A streetcar system is, slowly but surely, getting rebuilt. The Purple Line is moving ahead and a number of Virginia's efforts to build more and more highway dependence have been thrwarted.

I just hope we don't start using transit as a new tool to subsidize sprawl instead of using it as a tool to concentrate our resources and minimize how much new infrastructure we have to waste money building.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: You want kimchi with that?
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There is a huge difference between planning and having a plan fully funded and contruction starting.

All mass transit agencies make aggressive, B.S. long term plans that will never come to fruition, and they know it.

They do it to garner political and public support for the existing transportation network, especially for areas that are not currently served well by public transportation.
most capital plans for new routes are done by MPO's (here the MWCOG) or by local govts, not by transit agencies.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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that said, where is your cite for a VRE extension to Culpepper? All I can find on VRE extensions in the pipeline are to Gainseville area. VRE and some pols may talking about it, but I think it would belong in proposed, not planned.

similarly what evidence for PLANNING of MARC extensions to Hagerstown or Wilm (which latter would overlap SEPTA service from Newark DE to Wilm and Philly)

My impression is your "planned" category is a mix of UC, actually in the planning pipeline, and proposed stuff that has serious support from officials, while "proposed" is anything any transit advocates have suggested.
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