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Old 05-24-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by KStreetQB View Post
Ouch, that's rough. When a drunk white person takes a limp wristed swing at a cop, they usually just appologize for their mistake and hand us a fresca.
It's funny you say that, I was in the barbershop getting my cut this weekend and they had True TV on with one of their dumb criminal shows. Ayway one white cop pulls over this white lady who is clearly intoxicated as he begins to process her out of no where a white guy attacks him. He continues to attack the cop even after the cop states he will shoot. Finally the woman and another guy stop him. Well he got 8 years for his drunken assault.

So your little racial hypothesis holds little water. Hit a cop you will be going to jail no matter what race you happen to be.

 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yeah, I usually suck it up, especially when dealing with these young white male cops in some of the "lesser" agencies like the Metro police. Typically, they're the Southern Maryland and West Virginia imports, barely literate high school graduates with a chip on their shoulder that they couldn't get into the Park Police or Secret Service police or whatever. Though I must admit to occasionally entertaining myself by getting a little uppity with them--demanding their supervisor's name or badge numbers, standing akimbo and tapping my foot like I got places to be, etc.
What's interesting is I bet on average they still have higher IQs than you average DC worker.
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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My question is (kinda off topic) but why doesn't the African American community ever unite behind someone who is actually innocent? I mean, I'm willing to bet this wheelchair bandit has a long list of offenses, and was trying to resist arrest from these officers. So what, the cops MAY have been a little too rough with him. But we only got to see a few minutes of video footage. I'm sure this guy was being difficult from the get go. Maybe if he would have listened the first 20,000 times they gave him directions this would have never happened. But it's always easier to blame the racist cops than the low lifes that they arrest.


And this will never change. How many times have we heard of cops roughing up suspects while they try to make an arrest? And it's always black suspects, lets just keep it real. And it's always black suspects with a laundry list of former charges behind their back. Rodney King anyone? That guy was and still is a thug. Why do blacks stand up for these people? These people would probably just as fast mug you on the street rather than help you fix a flat. It's laughable that people would actually be on their side.
I'm Black and I've wondered that myself. I have a theory that it has to do with the changing leadership in the Black community from elite urban Northern educated to the rural South transplants. This happened around the 60s and 70s when the Coleman Youngs and Marion Berrys came to the fore. Their message to the Black community was that they are victims of an oppressive white power structure and that the only way to get a fair shake is to take from them.

This was a markedly different message from the traditional Black elite. While they acknowledged the racism directed towards Blacks they tended to believe if they put their best foot forwards equality would come. One local manifestation of the differences in philosophies is Dunbar HS. Which went from a school that had some of the top test scores in the city, routinely sending its students to Ivy League schools before Jim Crow to one of abject failure today. All the while remaining almost exclusively Black

Many people don't realize Rosa Parks was not the first Black woman to refuse to give up her seat in Montgomery around that time. A few months before an unwed, pregnant Black teenager had a similar experience. However she was very rude when being escorted off the bus. So when her case came up before the NAACP they decided to pass because of her background and behavior. They understood correctly that in order to have the best effect they had to have a person from an unimpeachable background.

The Black leaders today don't grasp that concept and prefer to rabble rouse and get in front of the cameras. One consequence by choosing people of questionable backgrounds to rally behind is that you end up getting burned more often than not (ie Tawana Bradley, Jena 6, Duke Rape Case etc.).
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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If you don't cause any trouble then you should have nothing to worry about. You weren't there and have no idea what was said. Maybe he swung or threatened them before this. If someone swings at me then I could care less that you're in a wheel chair. I'm there to help yet it's okay for people to threaten my life or try to attack me? No way. My number one goal is to get home in the morning after I get off.

Metro Transit Police aren't as good as other forces so I will give you that maybe they panicked quicker than MPD might.
Typical answer. (the bolded part) It's not making me feel any better.

Nevertheless, I agree that a cop has the right to defend themselves. I understand that. What bothers me is that they went too far. Body slamming him face first into the pavement was just too much. Surely, there are just as effective, better ways to arrest this guy, no?
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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It's funny you say that, I was in the barbershop getting my cut this weekend and they had True TV on with one of their dumb criminal shows. Ayway one white cop pulls over this white lady who is clearly intoxicated as he begins to process her out of no where a white guy attacks him. He continues to attack the cop even after the cop states he will shoot. Finally the woman and another guy stop him. Well he got 8 years for his drunken assault.

So your little racial hypothesis holds little water. Hit a cop you will be going to jail no matter what race you happen to be.
But he still got the fresca right?

(p.s. I think you may have missed the point of my post)
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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I'm Black and I've wondered that myself. I have a theory that it has to do with the changing leadership in the Black community from elite urban Northern educated to the rural South transplants. This happened around the 60s and 70s when the Coleman Youngs and Marion Berrys came to the fore. Their message to the Black community was that they are victims of an oppressive white power structure and that the only way to get a fair shake is to take from them.

This was a markedly different message from the traditional Black elite. While they acknowledged the racism directed towards Blacks they tended to believe if they put their best foot forwards equality would come. One local manifestation of the differences in philosophies is Dunbar HS. Which went from a school that had some of the top test scores in the city, routinely sending its students to Ivy League schools before Jim Crow to one of abject failure today. All the while remaining almost exclusively Black

Many people don't realize Rosa Parks was not the first Black woman to refuse to give up her seat in Montgomery around that time. A few months before an unwed, pregnant Black teenager had a similar experience. However she was very rude when being escorted off the bus. So when her case came up before the NAACP they decided to pass because of her background and behavior. They understood correctly that in order to have the best effect they had to have a person from an unimpeachable background.

The Black leaders today don't grasp that concept and prefer to rabble rouse and get in front of the cameras. One consequence by choosing people of questionable backgrounds to rally behind is that you end up getting burned more often than not (ie Tawana Bradley, Jena 6, Duke Rape Case etc.).
+100,000.000
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Go to the youtube video, blow it up to full screen and just watch the first two seconds and focus on the head of the officer closest to the street.

FIRST SECOND: Officer is leaning down to put handcuffs on the seated drunk guy who isn't exactly cooperating.

SECOND SECOND: Drunk guy roundhouses cop closest to the street. Drunk guy's hand remains in the cops neck and face area either grabbing or shoving him. Officer immediately puts the striking/shoving arm in a lock and pulls the drunk guy to the street.

I wish I knew how to make one of those repeating .gifs with the guy's arm swinging around and hitting the cop on loop. It's harder to keep the race card on the table watching that.

This isn't an infant. This isn't a 90 year old grandmother swinging her purse. This is a grown man, drunk, unpredictable and resisting arrest, who can still deliver a hit or use a concealed weapon. It's not the handicapped/race crime of the century because he didn't stick the landing after hitting a cop. Get a grip people.

p.
You call it "roundhouses" whereas it looked more like he was scared he was going to fall. He reaches for whatever he can to prevent falling. Cop thinks he's resisting arrest and slams him face first into the pavement. It's all in the interpretation. You automatically defend cops so you see it as a roundhouse, whereas I, an experience wheelchair user, (but who actually usually is on the cops side) can see it differently. I think a better trained cop could assess the situation and come up with a better way to handle this than what happened. The dude may not be a 90 year old lady, but it's quite obvious that he is no match for even one of these cops. BTW, would they body slam a 90 year old lady face first into the pavement in the same situation?
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:57 PM
 
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And DC'sFinest, you have yet to respond to what exactly the drunken guy in the wheelchair is protesting? He is a freedom fighter like those people in the 60's right????
Well the Metro Board of Directors disagrees with all of you because they are launching an investigation and one of their "white" board members said that they video is disturbing. So much for a united front. It's on Fox Five's website.
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:58 PM
 
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Well Metro Board of Directors disagrees with all of you because they are launching an investigation and one of their "white" board members said that they video is disturbing. So much for a united front. It's on Fox Five's website.
That had nothing to do with what I was asking you, but whatever.....
 
Old 05-24-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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I'm Black and I've wondered that myself. I have a theory that it has to do with the changing leadership in the Black community from elite urban Northern educated to the rural South transplants. This happened around the 60s and 70s when the Coleman Youngs and Marion Berrys came to the fore. Their message to the Black community was that they are victims of an oppressive white power structure and that the only way to get a fair shake is to take from them.

This was a markedly different message from the traditional Black elite. While they acknowledged the racism directed towards Blacks they tended to believe if they put their best foot forwards equality would come. One local manifestation of the differences in philosophies is Dunbar HS. Which went from a school that had some of the top test scores in the city, routinely sending its students to Ivy League schools before Jim Crow to one of abject failure today. All the while remaining almost exclusively Black

Many people don't realize Rosa Parks was not the first Black woman to refuse to give up her seat in Montgomery around that time. A few months before an unwed, pregnant Black teenager had a similar experience. However she was very rude when being escorted off the bus. So when her case came up before the NAACP they decided to pass because of her background and behavior. They understood correctly that in order to have the best effect they had to have a person from an unimpeachable background.

The Black leaders today don't grasp that concept and prefer to rabble rouse and get in front of the cameras. One consequence by choosing people of questionable backgrounds to rally behind is that you end up getting burned more often than not (ie Tawana Bradley, Jena 6, Duke Rape Case etc.).
Your self loathing is really hilarious. For every Tawana Brawley (not Bradley), there is an Emmit Till. So your point is moot.
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