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Old 10-06-2011, 10:59 AM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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I think the impact of transit on nightlife areas is less that people take transit on saturday night to get there, but that it makes the area more desirable for residential development, which in turn provides more critical mass for retail, restaurants, etc.

As for the impact of the street car on H street, Im not sure. I suspect it will add to the aura of the street. It may do more for the farther end of the line.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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I think people are putting WAY too much stock into what the streetcar--if indeed it ever does get built--will do for H Street. The "connection" to Union Station is going to be a tremendous hassle and has been poorly planned. I just don't see that many people bothering to Metro to Union Station, taking 5-7 minutes to exit the Metro and walk around to the back of Union Station, then waiting for the streetcar to whisk them 8-10 blocks down H Street.

If they ever manage to launch the streetcar, it will attract some riders at first out of sheer curiosity. But once that initial curiosity has worn off, I suspect that most people will revert back to what they're doing now: driving, cabbing or walking there.

Which is not to say that I don't think H Street will continue to grow and evolve. I think we're long past the point where that question needs to be asked. But if the question is how substantial of an impact the streetcar will bring to the corridor, my best guess is "not much."
Yeah, I'm just going by what I've read, that it's somehow suppose to connect H Street with the rest of the city.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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I think the impact of transit on nightlife areas is less that people take transit on saturday night to get there, but that it makes the area more desirable for residential development, which in turn provides more critical mass for retail, restaurants, etc.
There's certainly something to be said for that--indeed, the perceived permanency of streetcar tracks was one of the strongest arguments put forth by streetcar supporters as to why a streetcar was preferable to a bus or Circulator line. The infrastructure sends a message that the city is investing in the corridor and that the line cannot be easily relocated.

But I remain unconvinced that the streetcar is going to be much more than one of multiple transit options for people in the neighborhood, and I don't really see it as being a significant catalyst for development. H Street's renaissance began in the early part of the last decade, long before any concrete plans for a streetcar line were in place. I would argue that the northward gentrification of Capitol Hill and Stanton Park, the ongoing development of the NoMa neighborhood, the continued investment by entrepreneurs and developers in the corridor and the city's ongoing general renaissance have and will continue to play a much larger role in the evolution of H Street than the streetcar line will.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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Well, well, well! Look what we have here. Alot sure has changed for both corridor's over the past 6 years.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Well, well, well! Look what we have here. Alot sure has changed for both corridor's over the past 6 years.
And still changing...I can only imagine the next 5-10.
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:58 PM
 
Location: the future
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Yea U street is some pure BS right now. maybe things will be better in the summer time. I dont even turn my head to look at women on U street anymore bc it seems like all I see is transplants or college kids or men walking with men alittle too close. They overdid it with the gentrification on U street its not really fun anymore.

H-street is a better mix and has a more authentic feel. You see the gentrifiers more mixed in with the locals. Theres something for everybody on H street.
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Old 02-12-2017, 01:41 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Yea U street is some pure BS right now. maybe things will be better in the summer time. I dont even turn my head to look at women on U street anymore bc it seems like all I see is transplants or college kids or men walking with men alittle too close. They overdid it with the gentrification on U street its not really fun anymore.

H-street is a better mix and has a more authentic feel. You see the gentrifiers more mixed in with the locals. Theres something for everybody on H street.
So your use of words like "transplant" and "gentrifiers" are just code for white people correct?
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:59 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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When it comes to a mix of retail, restaurants, bars, residential living, walkable/bike-able/metro accessible, and amount of foot traffic. U Street is easily in the top 2 most vibrant neighborhoods in the DMV.

H Street is coming along nicely, but is not on the same level yet (not sure if it ever will be).
In my opinion, the streetcar has been a dud for H Street. Amateurish execution.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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I doubt H street will ever be at the level of U Street. The Metro access is the main reason. I know the streetcar is there, but you can't compare an extensive subway system that covers the majority of the Metro area with a streetcar that can move about 50 people at a time.

H street will definitely become more popular as NoMa ups its density in the next few years, but I doubt it will ever reach U street levels. Most likely, H Street will stay a local hot spot for people who live in close proximity to it. At best it might eventually become a Georgetown for hipsters.
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Old 02-17-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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So your use of words like "transplant" and "gentrifiers" are just code for white people correct?
...just the ones that look like they're from Fargo, ND
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