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Old 07-22-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I don't get the "they forced people out of their neighborhood" argument. If you own a home, you don't have to sell it to anyone. You can just hold out and watch all those good, lily white folks fill up your neighborhood as property values continue to climb. Are yuppies snatching old black ladies out of houses these days? How are people being "forced out?"

 
Old 07-22-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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I don't get the "they forced people out of their neighborhood" argument. If you own a home, you don't have to sell it to anyone. You can just hold out and watch all those good, lily white folks fill up your neighborhood as property values continue to climb. Are yuppies snatching old black ladies out of houses these days? How are people being "forced out?"
i assume increases in property taxes.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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i assume increases in property taxes.
That's bogus. Anyone who owns property in DC knows that (1) the taxes are low compared to Virginia and Maryland (especially PG County) and (2) DC places a cap on property tax increases. You will not pay $3,000 in property taxes one year and then $6,000 the next. Even if they raised your property taxes by $3,000, that's a whopping $250 a month you have to pay. Your kid's part-time job at Arby's would be able to cover that and the utilities.

When people lose their homes, I suspect it's for stupid reasons, and not because of property tax increases. My neighbors a few houses down lost their house (which had been in the family for over 40 years) by sapping all of the equity out of it and buying cars. There were about 9 people living in that house and each one of them had a car. I mean, if you've had a house for 30 years, that means you shouldn't have a mortgage, right? And if you lost your house because you thought it would be a good idea to throw some Ds on your truck, I have no sympathy for you. Sorry.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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That's bogus. Anyone who owns property in DC knows that (1) the taxes are low compared to Virginia and Maryland (especially PG County) and (2) DC places a cap on property tax increases. You will not pay $3,000 in property taxes one year and then $6,000 the next. Even if they raised your property taxes by $3,000, that's a whopping $250 a month you have to pay. Your kid's part-time job at Arby's would be able to cover that and the utilities.

When people lose their homes, I suspect it's for stupid reasons, and not because of property tax increases. My neighbors a few houses down lost their house (which had been in the family for over 40 years) by sapping all of the equity out of it and buying cars. There were about 9 people living in that house and each one of them had a car. I mean, if you've had a house for 30 years, that means you shouldn't have a mortgage, right? And if you lost your house because you thought it would be a good idea to throw some Ds on your truck, I have no sympathy for you. Sorry.
Well I was just throwing out a possibility.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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DC losing its majority black status can only be a good thing.

If the city weren't majority black, Eastern HS would be a magnet school. But the black residents of Wards 6, 7 and 8 all said: "Magnet? That just means white. We don't want no stinkin' magnets in our city!" And thus, Eastern is still a neighborhood school, and will continue to suck. Any middle class families that may have considered staying in the city because of the prospect of new magnets is no longer considering it.

When Fenty comes back in 2014, he'll set the city back on the right course. We'll get some magnets and young families won't automatically flee to Virginia once their kids reach school age.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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DC losing its majority black status can only be a good thing.

If the city weren't majority black, Eastern HS would be a magnet school. But the black residents of Wards 6, 7 and 8 all said: "Magnet? That just means white. We don't want no stinkin' magnets in our city!" And thus, Eastern is still a neighborhood school, and will continue to suck. Any middle class families that may have considered staying in the city because of the prospect of new magnets is no longer considering it.

When Fenty comes back in 2014, he'll set the city back on the right course. We'll get some magnets and young families won't automatically flee to Virginia once their kids reach school age.

Once the demographics start to shift to the other end, we will finally see results. Both in the polls and streets. Sorry to say (not really) but the local black population has been voting in officials that have done NOTHING to change the fabric of DC into anything positive. Year after year of what??? Wards 8 & 9 are still dirt poor. And guess who their fearless leader is?
 
Old 07-22-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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Once the demographics start to shift to the other end, we will finally see results. Both in the polls and streets. Sorry to say (not really) but the locak black population has been voting in officials that have done NOTHING to change the fabric of DC into anything positive. Year after year of what???
One of my friends lives in Southeast and he voted for Vincent Gray. When I asked him why, he said: "Because Fenty doesn't care about Ward 8. He's done nothing for Southeast."

Well, it turns out that they've opened more rec centers and invested more money in SE per capita than any other quadrant. I think he's angry because he wants MLK Drive to look like Connecticut Avenue, and it doesn't. But the mayor can't do anything about people throwing Tastykake cartons out on the street. He can't stop people from stabbing each other. There's only so much a mayor can do. My friend is very well-educated, so if he's thinking that way, I can't imagine what the typical SE resident is thinking.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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The last thing Dc needs is another Rec. Center. It hasn't done much to keep these "urban youth" occupied.....
 
Old 07-22-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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But the "people" wanted rec centers. Fenty gave them rec centers. They still weren't happy.

"What are you doing, Mr. Mayor, to see that my son makes good grades?"

"What are you doing, Mr. Mayor, to make sure my son stays out of jail?"

"What are you doing, Mr. Mayor, to ensure that a Five Star hotel gets built in my neighborhood?"

"What are you doing, Mr. Mayor, to ensure that I get a good paying job?"

Gimme, gimme, gimme! You'll never get anywhere with that mentality. Why would I build a luxury hotel in your neighborhood so thugs could rob it, intimidate my patrons, and just eff it all up? Why would I invest money to put new trees in your tree boxes when you won't even pull the weeds out and they end up dying anyway? Some people won't be happy until they move all of Ward 8's residents up to Foxhall. And then when Foxhall Street is littered with Tastykake boxes, they'll complain some more.
 
Old 07-22-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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Once the demographics start to shift to the other end, we will finally see results. Both in the polls and streets. Sorry to say (not really) but the local black population has been voting in officials that have done NOTHING to change the fabric of DC into anything positive. Year after year of what??? Wards 8 & 9 are still dirt poor. And guess who their fearless leader is?
Where is Ward 9?
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