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Old 07-22-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Do people have as much of a problem with gentrification in DC when the gentrifiers are black rather than white?
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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I didn't know black people could gentrify.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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Do people have as much of a problem with gentrification in DC when the gentrifiers are black rather than white?

No. And that is the issue I take up with. People can sit back all day and say "Its not about race", but in reality it is.

Many (not all) blacks don't have a problem with people who look like them coming into their neighborhoods. But many (not all) do have a problem with whites doing the same. Many blacks (not all) also have a problem with newer Hispanics coming into their neighborhoods. So rich or poor, it doesn't matter. Many (not all) long time BLACK DC residents have an issue with other ethnic groups coming into "their" city. Many (not all) will come right out and say it too.

And that is what I take offense to....
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:24 PM
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No. And that is the issue I take up with. People can sit back all day and say "Its not about race", but in reality it is.

Many (not all) blacks don't have a problem with people who look like them coming into their neighborhoods. But many (not all) do have a problem with whites doing the same. Many blacks (not all) also have a problem with newer Hispanics coming into their neighborhoods. So rich or poor, it doesn't matter. Many (not all) long time BLACK DC residents have an issue with other ethnic groups coming into "their" city. Many (not all) will come right out and say it too.

And that is what I take offense to....

what community do you think is valued more highly, a 85% black community with average incomes over 100k or an 85% white community with incomes averaging 80k? if you've never heard of redlining look it up. if well to do blacks started moving into potomac, md in mass the housing values would drop, even if they could afford to live there.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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what community do you think is valued more highly, a 85% black community with average incomes over 100k or an 85% white community with incomes averaging 80k? if you've never heard of redlining look it up. if well to do blacks started moving into potomac, md in mass the housing values would drop, even if they could afford to live there.

This is a serious question: Does the crime also go up? That has a HUGE factor in it too....
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:34 PM
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This is a serious question: Does the crime also go up? That has a HUGE factor in it too....
not at that income level, from my experiences crime generally is a condition of income, not race.
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Old 07-23-2011, 05:33 AM
 
Location: DC
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what community do you think is valued more highly, a 85% black community with average incomes over 100k or an 85% white community with incomes averaging 80k? if you've never heard of redlining look it up. if well to do blacks started moving into potomac, md in mass the housing values would drop, even if they could afford to live there.
Housing values are fine in Crestwood, which is 60% black.
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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Am I a black gentrifier?
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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is it cos I iz black?


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Old 07-24-2011, 09:18 AM
 
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No. And that is the issue I take up with. People can sit back all day and say "Its not about race", but in reality it is.

Many (not all) blacks don't have a problem with people who look like them coming into their neighborhoods. But many (not all) do have a problem with whites doing the same. Many blacks (not all) also have a problem with newer Hispanics coming into their neighborhoods. So rich or poor, it doesn't matter. Many (not all) long time BLACK DC residents have an issue with other ethnic groups coming into "their" city. Many (not all) will come right out and say it too.

And that is what I take offense to....
LOL what ?????

Im a black gentrifier(OR WAS) and I have just about the same if MORE problems than a white gentrifier. In H Street...it was a pretty fun lil neighborhood.....However, the power struggles here are affecting everyone. I walk home at night and white people clutch their purses around me because they think I'm going to steal something. Native Black DC'ers will call me a "sellout" or "uncle tom" at every single moment if we strike a convo and they find I'm not from here, don't have family here,or if I dare wear my Howard U. T-shirt the venom will come FLYINGGGGG.......If I wear anything besides a t-shirt/jeans, or club attire, I'm looked at as a Bougie Black in this neigborhood......God Forbid if I wear a Business suit lol or KHAKIS

At least a white gentrifier can rant/rave to his other buddies? Who Do i have for general support in this area? Poor D.C. Black People don't want to have anything to do with me, white people think I'm automatically on the side of DC Natives when I'm not half of the time.........Gentrification is truly a class issue I've found out........and black gentrifiers are the ones truly caught in the middle in this area.........

Heck, I'd love to have an actual LIBRARY or even a Bookstore in this area! Maybe some more parking for the church on 13th and H or more parking for EVERYONE, Maybe reopen that Gym that's been closed for AGES on H street, maybe MORE affordable and mixed apartment housing so people don't HAVE to move out to PG County............anything besides yet ANOTHER bar...I live here so It'd be great for this area to finally be "liveable" for everyone not just a select few...yet I'm on everyone's s**t list here......
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