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View Poll Results: Is DC the "American Paris"
Yes 19 30.16%
No 44 69.84%
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:36 PM
 
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Do people in DC kill people everywhere they go?


Clearly, Washington, DC is crime ridden and not fit for tourists. And the city has an HIV rate comparable to sub-Saharan African countries. And the Mayor smoked crack
No doubt we are much more violent than our European neighbors. I attribute much of that to their tight control over guns.

Mayor Grey smokes crack? Who would have thought that.

But do the Parisians still pee on their buildings?
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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But do the Parisians still pee on their buildings?
But do the Washingtonians still smoke crack?

DC really has no business trying to put down any other city, particularly considering that one of the most popular restaurants in the city (Le Diplomate) is a complete ripoff of the Parisian bistro. Do you think Parisians look to Washington for any type of inspiration when it comes to cuisine, style, fashion, etc? Paris was inspiring paintings by Renoir and Van Gogh when Washington was nothing but a slow, country southern backwater. And compared to Paris today, Washington is still a backwater town.

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Old 08-15-2013, 03:29 PM
 
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But do the Washingtonians still smoke crack?

DC really has no business trying to put down any other city, particularly considering that one of the most popular restaurants in the city (Le Diplomate) is a complete ripoff of the Parisian bistro. Do you think Parisians look to Washington for any type of inspiration when it comes to cuisine, style, fashion, etc? Paris was inspiring paintings by Renoir and Van Gogh when Washington was nothing but a slow, country southern backwater. And compared to Paris today, Washington is still a backwater town.
Judging by the Fugazi t-shirts I've seen in France, yes, they do to at least some extent. I guess Ian Mackaye is our Van Gogh.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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It's actually worth it to show DC's inferiority in photos.

DC wanting to be Paris

http://plone.org/events/conferences/...rcle.jpg/image

The real thing

http://www.imagenesygraficos.com/fon...ris-france.jpg

The fake thing

http://eatmoredrinkmore.com/wp-conte...e-Exterior.jpg

The real thing

http://img1.etsystatic.com/003/0/599...26277_cwnj.jpg

DC's "grand" street

http://www.asla.org/uploadedImages/G...enue/penn3.jpg

Paris

http://www.dudziak.com/pictures/euro...ps_elysees.jpg
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Judging by the Fugazi t-shirts I've seen in France, yes, they do to at least some extent. I guess Ian Mackaye is our Van Gogh.
No. Seeing one guy with a Fugazi t-shirt (who may have been American anyway) (Fugazi never even had an album break the Billboard 100) is not the same as having dozens of French restaurants (Le Diplomate, Paul, Bistro du Coin, Montmatre, La Chaumière, Bistro Bis, Bistro Boheme, Bistro La Bonne, Marcel's, La Fourchette, Cafe la Ruche, Bistro Lepic, Poste, Bistro Francais, etc.) all around and basically jocking French style 24/7. The average Parisian couldn't tell you anything about Washington, DC other than the fact Obama lives there. The average Washingtonian, on the other hand, can tell you plenty about Paris.

If Fugazi is your city's claim to fame (along with mumbo sauce), then it's not really famous at all.

Ask the average Parisian about New York, though, and it's a different story. Even Washingtonians get excited any time some NYC celebrity chef goes down there to open a restaurant.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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No. Seeing one guy with a Fugazi t-shirt (who may have been American anyway) (Fugazi never even had an album break the Billboard 100) is not the same as having dozens of French restaurants (Le Diplomate, Paul, Bistro du Coin, Montmatre, La Chaumière, Bistro Bis, Bistro Boheme, Bistro La Bonne, Marcel's, La Fourchette, Cafe la Ruche, Bistro Lepic, Poste, Bistro Francais, etc.) all around and basically jocking French style 24/7. The average Parisian couldn't tell you anything about Washington, DC other than the fact Obama lives there. The average Washingtonian, on the other hand, can tell you plenty about Paris.

If Fugazi is your city's claim to fame (along with mumbo sauce), then it's not really famous at all.

Ask the average Parisian about New York, though, and it's a different story.

Who said it was the same? I simply corrected when you said that DC has provided NO inspiration to Parisians because that's wrong. Fugazi is one of the most influential punk or indie rock bands ever, and yes they are known internationally by people that follow that music, France included. They may not have sold a lot of records compared to more mainstream bands, but they have inspired more bands than countless other bands that went gold or platinum.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Who said it was the same?
DC has no influence there at all.
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:48 PM
 
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DC has no influence there at all.
If an American being a fan of an artist from France is an example of influence, how is a Frenchman being a fan of a band from DC not also an example of influence?

You really believe NOBODY in Paris is a fan of Fugazi? Then how were they are able to tour there and sell tickets to their shows there? Did people just read the flyer wrong and thought they were going to see a different band?
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Old 08-15-2013, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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If an American being a fan of an artist from France is an example of influence, how is a Frenchman being a fan of a band from DC not also an example of influence?
By that standard, Charleston, SC has had even more of an influence on Paris than DC since Hootie and the Blowfish were WAY bigger than Fugazi ever was.

But that's ridiculous of course.

When I say NYC has influenced Paris, I mean that people there constantly compare Paris to NYC, wear Yankee fitteds, and otherwise attempt to imitate New Yorkers (especially in hip hop culture, which is pervasive in Paris). As much as some people say that the French don't like Americans, well, they certainly love New York City.


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Old 08-15-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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You really believe NOBODY in Paris is a fan of Fugazi? Then how were they are able to tour there and sell tickets to their shows there? Did people just read the flyer wrong and thought they were going to see a different band?
I didn't say that Fugazi had no fans in Paris. I said they have no influence on Paris. Of course, being from a city that has little culture, you're going to stretch things quite a bit. But if that's the case, then every single small town that's produced any type of band has had an influence on Paris. The reality is that very few French even know what Fugazi is and where they're from. They do know, on the other hand, that hip hop originated in New York City (along with several other things).

See the difference?
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