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Just for fun, lets not. DC has self-imposed height limits. It gives it a unique, dense, detailed and charming character unlike practically any other American city. There are plenty of things about Chicago I find superior to DC, but criticizing DC for not having a big skyline make no sense.
If only DC could be as world-class as that Arlington place across the river...
I love the height limits. I wouldn't mind if the ease it to say 16 to 18 stories outside of the original L'Enfant City, but I DO NOT support any calls to outright eliminate the height limits for the sake of DC being some skyscraper-wannabe anywhere USA type of city. The skyline in my eyes reflects on how DC is a city of vistas...A perfect marriage of geometry and art and human-scaleness. With the absence of overwhelming and monolithic skyscrapers, the world's very first planned capital city, Washington, D.C., is truly one of the world's most beautiful and impressive.
To suggest DC is not world class is preposterous to me. Also, I don't get the "suburban" description. Compared to what, Manhattan? Hell, Bethesda, Arlington and Silver Spring are more urban than a great deal of the country. You don't need skyscrapers to be urban, in any case.
Agreed. Those edge cities are what makes DC unique imo since they're constantly growing.
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Ohhh that's great, name brand! That's like wearing $300 dollar jeans to brag about them. I don't care about brand, I care about functionality. If I can get a great hirise and look out over twinkling city lights and great nightlife and go to a few fancy hotels then yeah -- whoopity doo to me, I will party and be happy and life goes on. I am all about living in a city with lots of cool stuff to do. To me DC gets old -- quickly -- this is backed by the 2-4 year stay rate that we have. If you like it more power to you -- keep on with your CSPAN -- I wont knock your hustle.
P.S. I never called Atlanta worldclass, I said comparisons of Atlanta fringe neighborhoods (Buckhead) compared to Fairfax is the joke -- don't know how that got twisted to being my world class city.
Mine is Chicago.
Being recognized globally indicates significance so yes I would say that it is important.
4. The smartest people are here at DC. Silicon Valley may have technological smart people, WallStreet may have number smart people, but DC has the combination of all them here, plus the management and politically savy people.
This is a vast overstatement. Simply having a college degree does not make one smart or even really educated for that matter. College in America is a big joke for the most part. Students spend very little time studying and spend more time drinking like sailors and trying to hook up with opposite sex than they do gaining vocational skills. I went to college and I didn't learn much of anything there and if you are honest with yourself, you know you had the same exact "educational" experience. Also, the good ol' federal gubmint in DC loves buying drones with worthless college degrees. The more useless the degree, the better. DC may be the only city on the map where people pat themselves on the back for being regular. People in the DC Area brag about being college educated when a college degree has become a incredibly bad investment for most average people who can't rely on the federal government for a high-paying non-essential job. The term "professional" gets thrown around way too much in the DC Area. It's hilarious that none of these degree-snob "professionals" can fix their own car or fix the air conditioner in their house though. Laughable. And never compare DC to Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is pioneering a digital revolution with technology and the internet. If it weren't for Silicon Valley, you would still be using a huge Dell PC that crashes and needs to be taken in for expensive repairs every time you so much as log onto a shady porn site and would still be listening to music via CD's instead of your trusty ipod and you would still be calling and texting your friends using a Motorola flip phone. DC creates nothing but red tape for the rest of the country to deal with.
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5. DC can blow your hometown to nothing in a very "classical" way with a push of a button. Because we have the control of world class military system here.
That's nothing to be proud of. The reason why most of the world hates America is the very fact that we are an international bully who sows pain and death worldwide. And it would be a sad day when DC starts giving the okay to blow American cities to bits. Really, swaths of cities like Baltimore, Detroit, Trenton, Newark etc. are decaying, economically blasted, ghettoized, crime-ridden lawless cesspools.
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7. The amount of national food represented in DC is comparably matched to any other cities in US, and close to world food. Trust me, if you want something you can find it in DC, if you look hard enough.
DC cuisine is pedestrian at best. DC is becoming dominated by generic chain store culture. People on the bland left side of the beltway are in love with Chipotle for what reason I don't know. I guess white people aren't used to eating anything remotely ethnic, so they think Chipotle is authentic Mexican cuisine. The national and international food in DC is not seeing NYC or SF. Everyone knows NY has great pizza. SF has the best Asian cuisine in America, hands down. Chinatown in DC is like two blocks and most of those blocks have generic casual suburban chain restaurants like Fuddrucker's and Hooter's. Are you serious? Even Ben's Chilli Bowl is vastly overrated. The jumbo slice pizza in Adam's Morgan can be good depending on where you get it and it has it's place and does good before or after a night of heavy DC drinking, I suppose. DC's best most authentic food is probably the ghetto corner store carryout food with the Mambo sauce.
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8. DC has world class police. When was the last time you heard DC police doing anything wrong, like LAPD or NYPD?
Police in DC are too busy profiling and punishing the massive black underclass in the District to bother white people, conservatively dressed buppies and yuppies of various other nationalities to present themselves as a nuisance, I guess. Just because you don't hear about something in the mainstream media, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. DC cops seem perpetually absent just like how the police are in San Francisco. In NYC, the police are omnipresent. But in DC, there are tons of shady blocks that stupid yuppies seem to not be afraid to jog around. When did it become cool to jog around blocks where you have a chance of being assaulted, robbed or even murdered that is statistically seven or eight times higher than the national average?! It seems like the only place you consistently see a lot of police in DC is downtown/Chinatown/Gallery Place on 7th Street parked in front of where all the hoodrats hang out in front of the Verizon Center and the movie theater.
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9. DC has world class gangs, including MS 13, and various other gangs.
Actually, DC, itself, lacks a real gang culture. In DC and PG, black people in the hood just rep their neighborhood. Which is the reason why you see many run-down houses in the Trinidad neighborhood in NE DC with the flag of the country of Trinidad in their front yard or in the window. Gangs involve getting "jumped in", recruitment, hierarchy, strict rules and a desire to expand and take over different neighborhoods etc. DC doesn't have organized national name-brand gangs like Bloods, Crips, Vice Lords or GD's on a real level. Other East Coast cities like Baltimore and NYC have adopted L.A. gangs like the Bloods and Crips, but not DC on a major level. DC, like the Bay Area, has too much local regional pride to adopt a foreign gang culture founded in a faraway city. Really, the only two major American cities with a long established widespread gang culture amongst most minority groups are Chicago and Los Angeles. And Latino gangs like MS-13 and 18th Street are mostly concentrated in the suburbs in Northern Virginia and Maryland in PG and Montgomery Counties. MS-13 doesn't play a big role in violence and crime within DC, proper. MS-13 and other Latino gangs are a minority in majority black ghetto areas in DC where they are not taken seriously as a threat. And these gangs have a much more muted visual presence on the streets in the wealthy suburbs of DC compared to their California counterparts. MS-13 operates mostly under the radar more like the mafia in the suburbs of the DC Area. I'm originally from the Bay Area in California and Nortenos and Surenos are way out in the open sporting colors, living on blocks and neighborhoods with well-defined turf boundaries and shooting each other up more than stabbing; which puts more people in the surrounding vicinities at risk. After all, every active Latino gang in the DC Area was founded in California.
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This is a vast overstatement. Simply having a college degree does not make one smart or even really educated for that matter. College in America is a big joke for the most part. Students spend very little time studying and spend more time drinking like sailors and trying to hook up with opposite sex than they do gaining vocational skills. I went to college and I didn't learn much of anything there and if you are honest with yourself, you know you had the same exact "educational" experience. Also, the good ol' federal gubmint in DC loves buying drones with worthless college degrees. The more useless the degree, the better. DC may be the only city on the map where people pat themselves on the back for being regular. People in the DC Area brag about being college educated when a college degree has become a incredibly bad investment for most average people who can't rely on the federal government for a high-paying non-essential job. The term "professional" gets thrown around way too much in the DC Area. It's hilarious that none of these degree-snob "professionals" can fix their own car or fix the air conditioner in their house though. Laughable. And never compare DC to Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is pioneering a digital revolution with technology and the internet. If it weren't for Silicon Valley, you would still be using a huge Dell PC that crashes and needs to be taken in for expensive repairs every time you so much as log onto a shady porn site and would still be listening to music via CD's instead of your trusty ipod and you would still be calling and texting your friends using a Motorola flip phone. DC creates nothing but red tape for the rest of the country to deal with.
That's nothing to be proud of. The reason why most of the world hates America is the very fact that we are an international bully who sows pain and death worldwide. And it would be a sad day when DC starts giving the okay to blow American cities to bits. Really, swaths of cities like Baltimore, Detroit, Trenton, Newark etc. are decaying, economically blasted, ghettoized, crime-ridden lawless cesspools.
DC cuisine is pedestrian at best. DC is becoming dominated by generic chain store culture. People on the bland left side of the beltway are in love with Chipotle for what reason I don't know. I guess white people aren't used to eating anything remotely ethnic, so they think Chipotle is authentic Mexican cuisine. The national and international food in DC is not seeing NYC or SF. Everyone knows NY has great pizza. SF has the best Asian cuisine in America, hands down. Chinatown in DC is like two blocks and most of those blocks have generic casual suburban chain restaurants like Fuddrucker's and Hooter's. Are you serious? Even Ben's Chilli Bowl is vastly overrated. The jumbo slice pizza in Adam's Morgan can be good depending on where you get it and it has it's place and does good before or after a night of heavy DC drinking, I suppose. DC's best most authentic food is probably the ghetto corner store carryout food with the Mambo sauce.
Police in DC are too busy profiling and punishing the massive black underclass in the District to bother white people, conservatively dressed buppies and yuppies of various other nationalities to present themselves as a nuisance, I guess. Just because you don't hear about something in the mainstream media, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. DC cops seem perpetually absent just like how the police are in San Francisco. In NYC, the police are omnipresent. But in DC, there are tons of shady blocks that stupid yuppies seem to not be afraid to jog around. When did it become cool to jog around blocks where you have a chance of being assaulted, robbed or even murdered that is statistically seven or eight times higher than the national average?! It seems like the only place you consistently see a lot of police in DC is downtown/Chinatown/Gallery Place on 7th Street parked in front of where all the hoodrats hang out in front of the Verizon Center and the movie theater.
Actually, DC, itself, lacks a real gang culture. In DC and PG, black people in the hood just rep their neighborhood. Which is the reason why you see many run-down houses in the Trinidad neighborhood in NE DC with the flag of the country of Trinidad in their front yard or in the window. Gangs involve getting "jumped in", recruitment, hierarchy, strict rules and a desire to expand and take over different neighborhoods etc. DC doesn't have organized national name-brand gangs like Bloods, Crips, Vice Lords or GD's on a real level. Other East Coast cities like Baltimore and NYC have adopted L.A. gangs like the Bloods and Crips, but not DC on a major level. DC, like the Bay Area, has too much local regional pride to adopt a foreign gang culture founded in a faraway city. Really, the only two major American cities with a long established widespread gang culture amongst most minority groups are Chicago and Los Angeles. And Latino gangs like MS-13 and 18th Street are mostly concentrated in the suburbs in Northern Virginia and Maryland in PG and Montgomery Counties. MS-13 doesn't play a big role in violence and crime within DC, proper. MS-13 and other Latino gangs are a minority in majority black ghetto areas in DC where they are not taken seriously as a threat. And these gangs have a much more muted visual presence on the streets in the wealthy suburbs of DC compared to their California counterparts. MS-13 operates mostly under the radar more like the mafia in the suburbs of the DC Area. I'm originally from the Bay Area in California and Nortenos and Surenos are way out in the open sporting colors, living on blocks and neighborhoods with well-defined turf boundaries and shooting each other up more than stabbing; which puts more people in the surrounding vicinities at risk. After all, every active Latino gang in the DC Area was founded in California.
I see that you forgot about the Ethiopian and Etriean food that DC excels at...Other than that, the best food is still here in the suburbs. As for gangs, that's definitely true for the most part. However, the DC Blacks are heavily notorious and feared within the prison system.
Would you consider DC to be a world class city? World class cities include NYC, Los Angeles, London, Paris, Rio De Janeiro, Tokyo, etc. based on being important Politically, Culturally, or Economically to the world. And having world class restaurants, high tourism, and centers of higher education.
This isn't directed at you but if this question is asked over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, whether they live here or not, it should say a lot about a city. Most certainly DC should have been on the map long time ago.
DC is the only city that I know that should have been a world class city long time ago but is continuously considered "coming along" with all types of renovations. I admit that it has SOOOOOOO much potential but it wants it so bad but the current people here are not the ones to put DC on the map- the mentality is small town. Because if there is an answer to why it has taken so long, and someone questions, the person that questions is either said to be poor or isn't looking hard enough.
The city is always being questioned on every front to include music, dining, nightlife, art, fashion. It even has blogs on offices implementing no flip flop policies during the summer- that is small town news. World class cities overlook that kind of small town talk. The fact that you have to even use the words "world class" or "on par" says a lot..
On the other side of the coin, you have 250 CD pages to include this 6 page thread of back and forth on whether DC can compare to Atlanta, Paris, or Philly- not the other way around. If a city is doing its thing, there is no question.
2018 will be great structurely but the culture and mentality to go along with these changes won't match up til 2024/25
This isn't directed at you but if this question is asked over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, whether they live here or not, it should say a lot about a city. Most certainly DC should have been on the map long time ago.
DC is the only city that I know that should have been a world class city long time ago but is continuously considered "coming along" with all types of renovations. I admit that it has SOOOOOOO much potential but it wants it so bad but the current people here are not the ones to put DC on the map- the mentality is small town. Because if there is an answer to why it has taken so long, and someone questions, the person that questions is either said to be poor or isn't looking hard enough.
The city is always being questioned on every front to include music, dining, nightlife, art, fashion. It even has blogs on offices implementing no flip flop policies during the summer- that is small town news. World class cities overlook that kind of small town talk. The fact that you have to even use the words "world class" or "on par" says a lot..
On the other side of the coin, you have 250 CD pages to include this 6 page thread of back and forth on whether DC can compare to Atlanta, Paris, or Philly- not the other way around. If a city is doing its thing, there is no question.
2018 will be great structurely but the culture and mentality to go along with these changes won't match up til 2024/25
Spend some time on local NYC blogs to see what minutae people obsess over in a world class city. DC's far from world class imo (more like a cosmopolitan Boston or intellectual Miami), but why do you feel DC should already be there? It was a mostly sleepy southern city, then it got disinvested during the suburbanization era, and has only recently (like past 15-20 years) begun to grow into a fully robust city.
It hasn't been continuously coming along. It's very recent, but with the international economy and transit is moving quickly. That's why people are curious about it. No one's asking if Philly is a world class city because we know the answer already. It's very established in what it is.
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