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I'm pretty sure the Ivy League is the most accomplished conference from an academic standpoint.
The Ivy League is obviously quite good, yet not all schools are in the AAU like the B10. Vastly more research is done at B10 schools. In addition to total enrollment of the Ivies is about 50-60 thousand. Ohio State alone almost equals that. I'd agree that the Ivies are the most prestigious, but the question is accomplishments.
The Ivy League is obviously quite good, yet not all schools are in the AAU like the B10. Vastly more research is done at B10 schools. In addition to total enrollment of the Ivies is about 50-60 thousand. Ohio State alone almost equals that. I'd agree that the Ivies are the most prestigious, but the question is accomplishments.
Come on. It's one thing to be proud of where you're from; it's another altogether to be blinded by hubris.
What does size of the student bodies have to do with it? You said academically, not quantity of reserch output. Ohio State is far eaaier to get accepted to than any Ivy and it's a major party school on top of that.
If you think it's better academically than the likes of Princeton or Dartmouth just becauae it's bigger, that's just silly.
Do you actually hold these opinions or are you just trolling for a rise? No doubt Big 10 is a great academic conference, but the best? No.
I didn't go to a B10 school. Research is a primary academic accomplishment of a university. The top 10% of any B10 class could easily complete an Ivy education.
I didn't go to a B10 school. Research is a primary academic accomplishment of a university. The top 10% of any B10 class could easily complete an Ivy education.
The top 100% of Ivy students could complete a Big 10 education. Thank you for proving my point for me. I'll hold off on notifying Harvard, Yale, and Columbia that they've got new competition.
Arizona State churns out a lot of research, too.
Also, your child, and presumably a chunk of your money or years of their future money, went to a Big 10 school, so you have a very vested interest in pretending they're top of the heap to make sure you and your child get that return on investment for years to come.
Big 10 is definitely academically best of the major sports conferences, but not of all of the sports conferences.
I don't think the Big 10 is the best of the major sports conferences when it comes to academics. The PAC 12 has Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA, etc. Even the ACC does pretty well with Duke, UVA, UNC, Syracuse, BC, etc. I'd probably put the Big 10 below those two conferences.
The top 100% of Ivy students could complete a Big 10 education. Thank you for proving my point for me. I'll hold off on notifying Harvard, Yale, and Columbia that they've got new competition.
Arizona State churns out a lot of research, too.
Also, your child, and presumably a chunk of your money or years of their future money, went to a Big 10 school, so you have a very vested interest in pretending they're top of the heap to make sure you and your child get that return on investment for years to come.
Big 10 is definitely academically best of the major sports conferences, but not of all of the sports conferences.
I've had enough of this silliness.
There is no Ivy school that has an engineering program that is even close to that available from about a 1/2 dozen B10 schools so don't worry your liberal arts head about any insecurity. And the bottom 10% of the Ivy League wouldn't be in to top 10% of most community colleges.
I don't think the Big 10 is the best of the major sports conferences when it comes to academics. The PAC 12 has Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA, etc. Even the ACC does pretty well with Duke, UVA, UNC, Syracuse, BC, etc. I'd probably put the Big 10 below those two conferences.
PAC is probably second in academics, but it's not Stanford that is the issue in the PAC it's Washington St, Arizona St, Arizona. Indiana is probably the weak sister in the B10 and it's substantially better than any of those schools.
PAC is probably second in academics, but it's not Stanford that is the issue in the PAC it's Washington St, Arizona St, Arizona. Indiana is probably the weak sister in the B10 and it's substantially better than any of those schools.
Second behind the ACC? The Big Ten would NOT be at the Top. Duke is ranked higher than Northwestern. UVA is ranked higher than Michigan. Chapel Hill is ranked higher than Wisconsin. BC is ranked higher than Penn State. The ACC beats out the Big Ten pretty easily from top to bottom.
There is no Ivy school that has an engineering program that is even close to that available from about a 1/2 dozen B10 schools so don't worry your liberal arts head about any insecurity. And the bottom 10% of the Ivy League wouldn't be in to top 10% of most community colleges.
Except, you know, Cornell, Columbia, and UPenn Engineering. One good program does not an elite university make, particularly when you're talking about a field with such diverse divisions. You can't just say, "We rock at engineering!" and expect anyone to take you seriously.
I didn't study at a liberal arts school and I have no dog in this fight, so no insecurity here. Usually, once people are past high school or maybe college if they've been brainwashed hard enough, these petty "my kid's school is better than your kid's school" arguments fade from relevance. I just call out absurd manipulation of reality when I see it.
Your last point about community colleges is just ignorant and now I know you're just trolling but Bajan makes a good point. Big 10 probably falls overall behind PAC 12. ACC could go either way, imo.
I don't think the Big 10 is the best of the major sports conferences when it comes to academics. The PAC 12 has Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA, etc. Even the ACC does pretty well with Duke, UVA, UNC, Syracuse, BC, etc. I'd probably put the Big 10 below those two conferences.
My count is 4 members of the ACC that are in the AAU. Am I wrong?
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