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Well at least I am making progress. I was able to score points with you on two paragraphs. 
That being said, just because the city is highly educated and traveled doesn't mean that there aren't flaws to the ways that they think. But you know what- let's do this for once and for all. You are mine today because enough is enough. I’m feeling frisky! |
Absolute strawman. No one ever, EVER said there aren't flaws in how educated / traveled people think. Anyone who's seen how poorly our country is often run can see there are many, MANY flaws. I bring up educated / traveled people because you seem insistent that those who are happy here are somehow lacking in life experience, so it's important to remind you that many probably have a broader perspective than you.
I'm honestly worried to continue reading. You have this peculiar way of only seeing things from a very specific perspective and then extrapolating in all sorts of false directions. But, you seem intent so I shall soldier on...
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Why is that so many people that aren’t from here can get so fired up about their complaints regarding DC but yet, the responses are so simple? Answer me that now- and don’t give me the “we are tired of defending” response because then why even bother in the first place. There is nothing wrong with DC. I repeat, there is nothing wrong with DC. However- there are those that have serious complains but can never be properly addressed because of DC's inability to do so and fully explain and connect with those on a different dimension.
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What sort of platform do you want for these folks? All they do is complain. What more are we supposed to do for them? They have their place to vent. People complain about meth addicts and drunks and gossips in rural communities. They complain about narcissists and pretty much everything in New York and traffic / narcissistic people in L.A. People complain. Far stronger to find the good than the bad in a place.
The failure of your arguments - every, single time - is that you are locked in this false idea that people who somehow enjoy living in this vibrant city are blocked / ignorant / blinded by their blue room / whatever your attack of the day is.
It's actually possible to see that there's obnoxious, type-A people here (duh. It's the political center of the world), bad traffic, crappy Metro on weekends, brutally hot summers, outrageous prices for a city that offers about 1/5 what other cities in the same price range offer... and STILL appreciate the art galleries, artists, entrepreneurs, scientists, engineers, people from all over the world, street musicians, concert venues, running / bike trails, rivers to kayak, large black professional class, great bartenders, live concert venues and world class schools.
This is the DC I know, which is why your "DC people are blocked" meme always comes up flat. Why would I obsess over what DC isn't? Would you be so obsessive wondering why Los Angeles or Las Vegas are full of entertainment people and not a lot of intellectuals or factory workers?
As I've said before - you're a body builder. You're a bottle service / nightclub type aficionado. This is not the city for that type of person. Likewise, neither is Portland. Doesn't make people who like Portland are blocked.
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Tell me, how does the fact that there only being mostly Central Americans in the area not affect the social mechanics? Do you know why that there are mostly Central Americans and not south americans/Caribbean’s in the area? Do you know how the social mechanics would change if you had more living in the immediate areas? You don’t even touch these areas.
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And if there were more Cambodians, the social mechanics would change even more! Wow!
Why would I touch on an abstract hypothetical of some collection of people you pulled out of thin air?
You can see the populations that live here in sizable quantities in any census. That's what DC has.
Might as well ask what Miami would be if it had more Dutch influence rather than Cuban or Detroit with more Chinese immigrants than Arabic or El Paso if it weren't right across the river from Juarez.
Cities are what they are and are defined as such.
Why can't people be happy in these places without the city excelling in every aspect? DC would be a terrible place for an aspiring actor or country musician to live, for example, but that's okay. There are other places for that.
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So when one would read the below paragraph written by another poster in another site, but yet, a DC poster would continue to disregard it and try to come up with some type of defense or reasoning. That is the disconnect I speak of. So explain to me the two different types of thinking by so many different people? How is that possible- answer me that, forget about getting at me. Why do some people believe that washington is a one trick pony? Answer me that?
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Those people just haven't spent much time here. They go to the wrong parties, run in cliche political circles. I don't know. Political wonks are boring for the most part. No need to waste your time with them. There's 6 million people here.
[quote]Bluefly stop it right now./quote]
You're talking to yourself, drumming up a whole false argument in your head that we're not having.
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You mean to tell me that every article that speaks about DC and all related complaints are just by people that don't fit here? Why must you undermine the creative dimension and intelligence of those that are not drawn to this area or are in need of more?
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No one's undermining anyone's "creative dimension". Christ. If you only knew the creative dimensions I roll in, but why does DC need to be a mecca of creativity? Why can't it be DC? Unlike capitals like Paris and Berlin, it was designed to be separate from the centers of creativity and commerce in the US. That hasn't totally held but it speaks to why DC is what it is.
But there you go again - linking intelligence to simply not liking it here, as if people who don't like it here are somehow superior. Every place has its negatives, just a matter of whether or not the positives outweigh those negatives for any particular individual. There's no right answer.
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Why does a city have to continuously defend its boring state, lack of culture, boring architecture, dullness, endless blogs, rants, and posts? (Don’t give me the all cities are the same DC mentality response- that is all DC has)
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It makes sense now. You're just a newbie here. You've only scratched the surface of this place and have jumped to all sorts of conclusions based on the most superficial of stereotypes.
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And your response to this is probably not really going to explain the real reasons but instead try to unravel my post like some professor at UNLV. No buddy, forget about me- address the OP and get down and gritty.
That is what my post is all about. This is not about me and you. It is about the realities of why DC is the way it is. You most certainly agree that this city is very transient but doesn't that influence the mechanics of the city? No? Not one bit?
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Umm.... this is getting bizarre, man. DC was designed to be transient. That's part of what this place is. Why would anyone deny that influences the mechanics of the city? It is the mechanics of the city (though less transient than most realize).
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The fact you enter a club or happy hour and so many college men are in sports jackets or suits doesn't mean anything about the social mechanics? Of course not because there is that disconnect/blockage that you yourself may see but you are so busy defending your city that you keep a blind eye.
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Even more bizarre. I've lived several places. I'm not sure what is inherently negative about people in sport coats. Why is it bad that people dress nice? That's part of the "mechanics" of this city.
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The point is not whether or not DC is or isn't for everyone. I want no longer the answers of "go back or move if you don't like it here". But here is the thing, I really don't think the highly educated professional types can really get down and explain the differences between those that love it here and others that just want to get out. That is the disconnect between dimension.
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Here's the shocker: not every place is a fit for everyone. People who like Denver over New Orleans don't have blockages, just preferences, even if there's more room for creative dimension in New Orleans.
Anyway, you've just not really experienced the city yet. It takes time to get past the stereotypes you're locked in on and, maybe the artists and scientists and others who inspire me here wouldn't do the same for you. No biggie. Good luck finding your niche.
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