D.C. Area Residents: How Do You Feel About VA Claiming D.C.? (how much, lawyers)

[DC's Finest]

Live in DC,

Are you serious? I am a real Washingtonian. How can you say PG County is not connected to DC? Especially in the AA community. That's why the locals call PG Ward 9. PG and Montgomery Counties are more connected than NOVA IMO. DC used to have a terrible image, so of course the suburbs did not want to associate with the city. Since DC has seen a major resurgence, all of the surrounding areas are back on board.

[smakawhat]

VA wanting DC... never gonna happen. It's separated by a geo boundary and VA already has Richmond for it's hub, and most Virginians don't even consider NOVA part of Virginia so that's already it's city.

NOVA should just annex itself that way VA can go bankrupt

Seriously, I lived in Alexandria for about 3 years and now live in DC, and the DC area and people of NOVA have no connection with each other WHATSOEVER. People from PG county is a different story since most of DC's kids who grew up didn't stay cause the place was awful and went to PG instead (or just flat out moved far away).

IMHO geographicaly it makes sense for DC to retrofit into MD (which will never happen).

[CNI]

Originally Posted by smakawhat

VA wanting DC... never gonna happen. It's separated by a geo boundary and VA already has Richmond for it's hub, and most Virginians don't even consider NOVA part of Virginia so that's already it's city.

A number of people who replied to the "Showcase City" thread kept pointing to D.C. as VA's anchor city. I thought it was crazy for VA residents to feel they could confiscate an independent jurisdiction that is not part of VA.
Why stop at D.C.? Using that logic VA might as well try to claim some other independent localities too.

The point I'm trying to make is that VA needs to work on establishing its own "showcase city"/anchor city that it can be proud of and stop claiming D.C. when it is convenient.

Originally Posted by smakawhat

NOVA should just annex itself that way VA can go bankrupt .

I agree with the gist of what you're saying. Without NoVA the economic complexion of VA would be entirely different (and not in a better way).

[CNI]

Originally Posted by live in dc

Of course no one claims DC when it comes to all the stuff you here about in the local news (school system, crime, etc). But talk about the richness in cultural diversity, entertainment, etc. that's when adjoining states want to "claim" us...Let VA (yes, that includes northern VA) and Maryland get their own anchor city.

I agree totally. VA residents are sometimes eager to laugh when D.C. has some unfortunate development but are quick to try to claim D.C. when it is convenient.
Reminds me of how suburban areas tout their proximity to cities for economic development (e.g., to entice businesses, relocating residents) but play up those cities' negeatives in order to ensure that the suburban jurisdiction reaps the financial reward.

[Moth]

IMHO geographicaly it makes sense for DC to retrofit into MD (which will never happen).

I agree. Eitiher created two new counties or west of the park joins Montgomery and east of the park joins PG.

Inevitably someone from Maryland starts screaming about the crime. I try to point out that is not like there is some Berlin Wall separating DC from MD now. Maryland's crime stats would receive a bump, but would be nullified by the increase in population.

[smakawhat]

Originally Posted by Moth

I agree. Eitiher created two new counties or west of the park joins Montgomery and east of the park joins PG.

Inevitably someone from Maryland starts screaming about the crime. I try to point out that is not like there is some Berlin Wall separating DC from MD now. Maryland's crime stats would receive a bump, but would be nullified by the increase in population.

well it's ridiculous in fact it would stop the border crime which is a HUGE source of DC's and MD's crime problem. As if MD doesn't have issues with crime in other counties or Baltimore to begin with.

They aren't interested in DC I feel cause it doesn't have as big a tax base for them, and it has some problems that they would have to deal about, and the last thing they want is to pick up something and fix it.

[rlchurch]

Uh hello. The people of DC would never approve annexation by either Maryland or Virginia.

[Moth]

Uh hello. The people of DC would never approve annexation by either Maryland or Virginia.

Already has. Arlington County was originally part of DC but was given back to Virginia. The border markers are still there. Ever wonder why DC looks like a diamond with a piece missing? The missing piece is Arlington.

DC as a city state, a colony actually, does not work. But most people think there are only federal buildings here, so most do not care. I personally solved the problem by moving to Maryland.

[rlchurch]

Originally Posted by Moth

Already has. Arlington County was originally part of DC but was given back to Virginia. The border markers are still there. Ever wonder why DC looks like a diamond with a piece missing? The missing piece is Arlington.

DC as a city state, a colony actually, does not work. But most people think there are only federal buildings here, so most do not care. I personally solved the problem by moving to Maryland.

LOL yeah DC gave up Arlington county (actually called Alexandria county then) in 1847 when nobody in DC cared and the people in Arlington wanted to maintain their slave trade. Nobody still cares about Arlington. Ask NOVA historically how much stroke they have in the Virginia legislature.

DC as a city state does work, is economically viable, would suffer a loss of influence as part of either Maryland or Virginia, and the citizens of the District would never vote for it. There isn't a problem to solve and what you've proposed is, as I said before, like Little Abner wanting to own Carnegie Hall. It's a joke.

[smakawhat]

Originally Posted by rlchurch

DC as a city state does work, is economically viable, would suffer a loss of influence as part of either Maryland or Virginia, and the citizens of the District would never vote for it. There isn't a problem to solve and what you've proposed is, as I said before, like Little Abner wanting to own Carnegie Hall. It's a joke.

If getting correct and full representation for DC involved joining Maryland, I as a DC resident would have NO PROBLEM with that. Although I'd much prefer the whole full gamit for DC being it's own state since all the identity and structure is technically there already.

Either that or DC residents shouldn't have to pay federal taxes. But this is hi-jacking the thread so I am not going to discuss the whole DC voter-rights/representation thing here.