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Old 10-12-2017, 11:21 PM
 
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Why?

That's like saying legal Marijuana in DC means you will no longer be afraid of living next to a drug dealer lol.

Its not like anyone who wanted to move east of the river couldn't get a gun before if they wanted one.
They don't need a "good reason" aka to explain to other adults why they feel the need to protect themselves.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:32 PM
 
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Guns make noise. If they shoot the dog, that draws attention to them and gives anyone inside the house enough time to call the police faster.

Doesn't seem like you really thought this argument through much. Seems you are just regurgitating Fox News talking points lol.

Next you are probably going to say: "What if the gun has a silencer?!"
Point is, many home invaders would most likely leave your house if they saw a gun being pointed at them more so than a dog barking at them. Yes, some do shoot the dog and it will draw attention, ok? Have fun waiting 30 mins or longer for the Cops to get there, which gives the invaders plenty of time to quickly grab and go.

Why bother having a gun to protect yourself, when you can just wait for other adults with guns to help you out.?

Next you're probably going to say "only Cops and Military should be able to own guns."
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:10 AM
 
Location: DC
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Point is, many home invaders would most likely leave your house if they saw a gun being pointed at them more so than a dog barking at them. Yes, some do shoot the dog and it will draw attention, ok? Have fun waiting 30 mins or longer for the Cops to get there, which gives the invaders plenty of time to quickly grab and go.

Why bother having a gun to protect yourself, when you can just wait for other adults with guns to help you out.?

Next you're probably going to say "only Cops and Military should be able to own guns."
So much mythology.

1. We probably have about a dozen home invasions a year in DC. It really is a non issue.

2. During those infrequent home invasion, the bad guys have the element of surprise. They either kick in the door or push in when someone answers a knock. I know few people who answer the door with a gun in their hand, but you can do that today under existing law.

3. The dog is an early warning system in addition to everything else. The dog knows when people are outside and can alert you.

4. Police response time in my neighborhood is under five minutes.

5. Many more occupants and neighbors are injured by a gun in the house than home invaders. About 1/2 of murders are of relatives or acquaintances after an argument.

A loaded gun in the home doesn't make you safe.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Having guns in the home is a huge risk. You are more likely to be murdered as the result, you are more likely to use a gun to take your own life than that of some million-to-one shot intruder, and of course, while the numbers are small, you are more likely to be killed by the accidental discharge of a weapon. The ONLY choice for safety's sake is to keep guns out of the home.

And BTW, the Florida stats above were reported without a comparison base of reference.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Ok.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ent-crime-down


How? The guy was an armed security gaurd.
Its 2017.

That article is from 2013.

Try again.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:08 AM
 
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Point is, many home invaders would most likely leave your house if they saw a gun being pointed at them more so than a dog barking at them. Yes, some do shoot the dog and it will draw attention, ok? Have fun waiting 30 mins or longer for the Cops to get there, which gives the invaders plenty of time to quickly grab and go.

Why bother having a gun to protect yourself, when you can just wait for other adults with guns to help you out.?

Next you're probably going to say "only Cops and Military should be able to own guns."
Let me ask you a question: Why do we have police?

You seem to think everyone should just walk around with a gun and be their own police. This is idiotic.

How about we all walk around with grenades? How do you feel about that?
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:36 PM
 
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Having guns in the home is a huge risk. You are more likely to be murdered as the result, you are more likely to use a gun to take your own life than that of some million-to-one shot intruder, and of course, while the numbers are small, you are more likely to be killed by the accidental discharge of a weapon. The ONLY choice for safety's sake is to keep guns out of the home.

And BTW, the Florida stats above were reported without a comparison base of reference.
Well why would anyone own a gun if they don't know how to properly use it? Lol, sorry try another excuse why citizens shouldn't have a right to legally own guns.
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Old 10-13-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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So much mythology.

1. We probably have about a dozen home invasions a year in DC. It really is a non issue.

2. During those infrequent home invasion, the bad guys have the element of surprise. They either kick in the door or push in when someone answers a knock. I know few people who answer the door with a gun in their hand, but you can do that today under existing law.

3. The dog is an early warning system in addition to everything else. The dog knows when people are outside and can alert you.

4. Police response time in my neighborhood is under five minutes.

5. Many more occupants and neighbors are injured by a gun in the house than home invaders. About 1/2 of murders are of relatives or acquaintances after an argument.

A loaded gun in the home doesn't make you safe.
A loaded gun in the home does make one safe, if they know how to properly use it. Police response time in YOUR neighborhood may be 5 minutues, but not for every neighborhood.

Yes, the dog can alert you that someone is breaking into your house, which is when you proceed to grab your gun and protect your home.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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From my understanding, Police exist to protect it's citizens. With many events coming to light in the past few years, idk what to think of our Police Force. And *sigh* I know every cop is not a "bad cop." But I do question why many "good cops" do not speak up against the "bad cops."
You make a very valid point here.
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Its 2017.

That article is from 2013.

Try again.
You're squabbling over a 4 year difference when the law existed since 1987. It's more on you to prove crime spiked in the last four years than it is on me to prove that it didn't as I have over 30 years of crime going down on my side.
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