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Old 05-10-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Seattle area
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How socialisticly Seattle of you.
It's the American way. They have enough equity they could go on a cruise and come back to a super nice house with all their things moved in, except now there's no view of the lake. So it's hard for me to feel sorry for making them adhere to the conditions they agreed to when they made their smart investment. I do support the alternative where older people can have their property taxes taken out of the house sale proceeds when they die.

WA property taxes are pretty reasonable IMO. They are a lot less than in TX, another no income tax state. Of course there is always room for improvement on gov't spending but that's a separate issue.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: WA
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WA property taxes are pretty reasonable IMO. They are a lot less than in TX, another no income tax state. Of course there is always room for improvement on gov't spending but that's a separate issue.
So true... I came from Texas where some areas have property taxes three times the rate I pay here. And a climate that is much more harsh with cold, heat, sometimes drought, sometimes floods, and plenty of wind.

It is not perfect here (or anywhere) but I did choose WA after much research.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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Lots of retirees where I live and the crime is very low. I am all for informative criticism, but tarring an entire state because of the crime in certain areas is silly and misleading. There are many many low crime areas where retirees can live safely in Washington.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Don't have to READ about, but I do have to LIVE it... (for last 10 yrs of 'retirement')

$33/day for healthcare
$40/day for property taxes (up from $2/day)
$ 3/day Food.

It's the price of LIFE in WA. No one is gonna buy a house with $40./ day tax burden...
(and as mentioned... different for everone)

Assessor could write me a check, and I would be OUTTA his hair. (and outta WA )
$40.00 a DAY??? Are you sure about that?

My property taxes are less than $700.00 a year. My son and his girlfriend just bought a nice older home on eleven acres and their property taxes are only $1300.00 a year - considerably more than what I pay but nowhere near $40.00 a DAY!

Admittedly, I have a very modest home on five hillside acres, but still......$40.00 a DAY???
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:00 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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$40.00 a DAY??? Are you sure about that?
... but still......$40.00 a DAY???
Oh, yah, as sure as the $7,200 property tax check I just wrote for 6months has already cleared the bank..

As mentioned... taxes USED to be $800/yr, but I got crossways with the assessor and went to court a few times. So they are beating me into submission.

11 acres, home built for under $100k (20 yrs ago)

My TX home is $2800/yr. a tad more digestible

Taxes on my most recent WA home WERE $1000/yr when I bought it (last yr). This yr they jumped to $1500 (assessor chose to value it 2x what I paid, and argued that I got a good deal, so my purchase price does not matter.

Tax rip-offs hurt when I have ZERO income (retired early). I have ANOTHER hearing in Olympia next month, so need to buy a $2000 ticket home from Asia to go fight my WA taxes (again)... fun...
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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I know it to be true...

I bought my home and it was assessed for my purchase price...

WA also had the voter approved I-747 to limit Property Tax.

I-747 was tossed out the following year and my assessed value increased 80% year over year...

It was quite a shock and taxes now run about $33 a day from under $20 before.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Prague
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Property taxes are the most evil form of tax in existence. While some like to point to the uber rich and their mansions, they really hurt anyone retired on a modest fixed income. So many people have been forced to move from a place they have known as home, a place they have memories of raising their children, solely because of property taxes. My native state of NH is terrible in that regard. Your home should be the one thing least touched by government. That's one thing even many European countries got right.

That said, I've been looking at homes recently. I'm renting my first year in Washington to make sure I like both it and the particular area I have chosen, but will buy if I like everything. The property taxes on some of the homes I've seen haven't seemed unreasonable. They seem to be about average. If you think it's expensive head to the Northeast and prepare for sticker shock.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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So many people have been forced to move from a place they have known as home, a place they have memories of raising their children, solely because of property taxes.
Is there any state that doesn't allow elderly people to stay in their home and have the taxes taken out of the house sale proceeds after they die? I'm not sure that anyone is forced to leave their home. They might be forced to leave less money to their heirs, though, which seems fair to me. Plus many states give a property tax break to the elderly, even if they're millionaires.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Property taxes are the most evil form of tax in existence. ...That said, I've been looking at homes recently. I'm renting my first year in Washington to make sure I like both it and the particular area I have chosen, but will buy if I like everything. The property taxes on some of the homes I've seen haven't seemed unreasonable. ....
Do go see the tax assessor BEFORE you buy ANYTHING. Previous assessment may have NOTHING to do with future assessments. Many times there are deferrals and credits that won't pass on. Often a place has not been made 'current' in the tax roles for various reasons.

I bought a place near mine (less than 2 minutes away) Taxes are 1/12th my primary residence.

I do know about being forced from your properties. 3rd time for me, and ALL have been farms... MANY yrs of building accessory structures, fences, orchards, soils... Happened to my dad and my grandfather too. NEVER easy. IN fact my Grandfather had come as a child of a pioneer who homesteaded one of the original farms, and the state later taxed him off of it. I help many senior citizens who are missing meals due to WA property taxes. My kids missed a few too.
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Old 05-15-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Property taxes are the most evil form of tax in existence. While some like to point to the uber rich and their mansions, they really hurt anyone retired on a modest fixed income. So many people have been forced to move from a place they have known as home, a place they have memories of raising their children, solely because of property taxes. My native state of NH is terrible in that regard. Your home should be the one thing least touched by government. That's one thing even many European countries got right.

That said, I've been looking at homes recently. I'm renting my first year in Washington to make sure I like both it and the particular area I have chosen, but will buy if I like everything. The property taxes on some of the homes I've seen haven't seemed unreasonable. They seem to be about average. If you think it's expensive head to the Northeast and prepare for sticker shock.
No kidding!

I like looking at real estate ads from across the country and I have often seen nice, modest homes on acreage in places like NY State for sale for what looks like next to nothing (compared to here), but when you get to looking at what the property taxes are for those places, it's like HOLY S**T!

My little place, for which I pay less than $700.00 a year in taxes for, would probably be at least twice that back there - maybe more! For a lot of places (maybe all?), it looks like they pay more towards their property taxes each month than they do towards the mortgage on the home itself. I don't know how people manage it.

Also, if you're below a certain income level here, you can get a break on your property taxes - I can't remember if it's a complete reduction or just a deferment (something that has to be paid back eventually).

I checked into it a while back because I'm on disability but I was making a little too much to qualify at that time because I was still getting child support and a settlement payoff for being hurt on the job, which put me over the line. Next month, though, my child support comes to an end so I'm going to look into it again.
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