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Old 03-29-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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State House Democrats want to tax capital gains, service businesses | Legislature | The News Tribune

House Democrats in Olympia have proposed a $38.8 billion per year spending plan, a 13% increase over the last budget. When I moved here in 1992, state spending was about $23 billion per year. Population was just over 5 million, compared to just over 7 million today. State spending was about $3200 per WA resident then (inflation adjusted). The new proposal would put us at $5540 state spending per capita.
http://www.washingtonpolicy.org/site...getHistory.pdf

As Mia Love says, when government gets bigger, individuals get smaller. I think Olympia Democrats are trying to find the line where they can't take any more money without suffering disastrous political consequences. It appears that they have not yet hit that line.
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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Well, they're going to need some excuse for trying to push through another state income tax in about a year and a half.
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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They're just staking out a bargaining position, just like the Senate Republicans, who want any new spending (schools, mental health, transportation, tuition cuts, etc.) to be paid for by cutting social spending in other areas, rather than by raising taxes. I think it is going to be very difficult to cover current needs without raising some taxes, although some spending cuts will also have to be made.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Old 03-31-2015, 12:22 PM
 
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Your numbers don't work out, unless you are applying the inflation adjustment differently for state spending and per capita in 1992. Did you mean $13 billion for the state budget in 1992?
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Old 09-28-2015, 12:13 AM
 
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Politicians need to learn not to spend money they don't have. Illinois is about to go bankrupt, but trying to go deeper in debt. Their state legislature makes Tammany Hall look like pikers. Texas did it best. When they wrote their constitution they made it illegal to operate in the red. When times are tight they cut all nonessential services. I have seen the grass in the highway medians 6 feet high during the oilfield bust in the early '80s. (There were probably over 100,000 people out of work, including me.) The important stuff was paid, including my unemployment. Eventually the economy recovered- which was a lot easier because they hadn't built massive debts with massive interest driving them farther into the hole.
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Old 09-28-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Politicians need to learn not to spend money they don't have. Illinois is about to go bankrupt, but trying to go deeper in debt. Their state legislature makes Tammany Hall look like pikers. Texas did it best. When they wrote their constitution they made it illegal to operate in the red. When times are tight they cut all nonessential services. I have seen the grass in the highway medians 6 feet high during the oilfield bust in the early '80s. (There were probably over 100,000 people out of work, including me.) The important stuff was paid, including my unemployment. Eventually the economy recovered- which was a lot easier because they hadn't built massive debts with massive interest driving them farther into the hole.
Old thread. Budget's passed. If you like Texas, you should definitely move there (or back there). Since you haven't moved here yet there's plenty of red states to choose from.

Washington is growing faster than we need http://www.forbes.com/pictures/fdid4...-seattle-wash/

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Old 09-28-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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Old thread. Budget's passed. If you like Texas, you should definitely move there (or back there). Since you haven't moved here yet there's plenty of red states to choose from.
So, basically, you are telling "Wooly Bear" that someone who would dare to question democratic overspending needs to move elsewhere? Where's that famous liberal "tolerance" for others?
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Old 09-28-2015, 01:42 PM
 
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So, basically, you are telling "Wooly Bear" that someone who would dare to question democratic overspending needs to move elsewhere? Where's that famous liberal "tolerance" for others?
He resurrects an old thread about a budget that has already been passed in order to complain about spending in a state he doesn't live in. What's more, he lists states he likes that are the polar opposite of here as the type of state he likes. The logical conclusion is - don't move here when you already know this is just a state you will complain about. The state was that way before you moved here. It's not like we need more people to move here, they're coming in droves. And the budget passed months ago.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...es-tax-breaks/
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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He resurrects an old thread about a budget that has already been passed in order to complain about spending in a state he doesn't live in. What's more, he lists states he likes that are the polar opposite of here as the type of state he likes. The logical conclusion is - don't move here when you already know this is just a state you will complain about. The state was that way before you moved here. It's not like we need more people to move here, they're coming in droves. And the budget passed months ago.

Legislature OKs new budget with rare tuition cuts and pay raises for teachers | The Seattle Times
But why is that a logical conclusion? I live in Washington despite the political atmosphere in 3 counties on the West side that happen to have LOTS of people. I grew up here and love this state, even though I can't understand the logic of most of the imbeciles in our state government. Politics would be very low on my list of reasons to stay-or-leave Washington state. But I still reserve the right to complain.

So, if "Wooly Bear" has family in Washington, or loves the scenery or outdoor activities, or got a great job here, he should still move to a different state because he has a non-democratic viewpoint?

I agree that resurrecting this thread was pointless, but you can't put a neat little bow on someone's single post and tell them to "go live in a red state", as if you know everything about them.

That seems to be the opposite of what liberals are supposed to be about. I thought liberals were supposed to accept all people for who they are, not tell them to get lost because they have a single political viewpoint that opposes yours.
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