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Old 12-06-2006, 11:40 PM
 
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Okay guys, in response to several people that I have read believing that WA state is a progressive, 'blue' state, I have a nice link I'd like you to read. It discusses the idea, which is not new, to make eastern WA the 51st state:

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/tch/local/v-printer/story/6188592p-6063313c.html (broken link)

As an eastern WA native, this is not news to me, but I don't think it will ever come to pass. WA natives, please share your opinions of making eastern WA the 51st state.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Bothell, Washington
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Interesting concept, but the lack of a healty economic base throughout the central and eastern part of the state would leave this area economically depressed. I totally understand the desire to break away from a state government that seems to ignore the needs of the people whose real estate is twice the size of the west real estate.

In eastern King and Snohomish county they have been trying to create a new county (cedar or freedom) and after years of trying it has never gotten off the ground.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:24 AM
 
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Yes, breaking with Puget Sound would be a huge hit economically, but I imagine the agriculture would help with that, like in the area of biodiesel demand for 1 thing (if that continues as predicted). We still have the Pacific Northwest labs in Richland, along with lots of government jobs at Hanford as well. IMO Spokane, Tri-Cities, and Yakima would probably continue to prosper as they are now. I'm not promoting the idea, just my thought on the topic.
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Old 12-07-2006, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Port Angeles
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Eastern WA breaking away is one I had not heard. There has been a movement for many years to make parts of southern Oregon and nothern California into the state of Jeffereson and there was a book many years ago called Ecotopia. I would think that eastern Oregon would be a good match to go with eastern Wa (I lived in eastern Oregon for about 15 years) but is there even a political mechanism for reorganizing state boundaries and forming new states (that does not include violence)?
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:16 AM
 
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As you say, such political grandstanding is not new. North Idaho, eastern OR/WA, SW OR/N CA "State of Jefferson", and dozens of other state secession proposals have been floated throughout US history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...sion_proposals

I think the reason these have rarely gotten serious is that the states (and the US) have bicameral legislatures. The state senates disproportionally represent the interests of rural counties, balancing the state houses which have proportional representation based on population, requiring compromise. (Contrast Canada's effectively unicameral Parliament, in which Quebec can never block any Ontario coalition, fostering deeper resentment.)

Also, the east/west WA divisions are not so clear cut as some would portray. Spokane and Walla Walla often vote with Seattle, e.g. against I-933, for Sen. Cantwell.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:11 PM
 
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This will never happen, in my opinion. Ever state in the country would try to split. Look at Michigan. Split Northern Michigan from Detroit. Split Eastern Tennessee from Memphis and Nashville. Split Northern Arizona from Tucson and Pheonix. Split Texas, East and West. Split upstate New York from New York City. SoCal from NorCal. Northern Minnesota from the populated SE (Twin Cities). One could go on and on. It will never happen.

Cowlitz County
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:23 PM
 
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Sure, these types of movements have always existed and will continue, I'm sure, but will never come to pass.

I always found the proposal of making all of the area west of the Cascades in both Washington and Oregon one state and all of eastern Washington and Oregon another state. Obviously, it will never happen but interesting none-the-less.

--'rocco
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Shingle Springs, CA
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Default 51st State

Please let the next state be Northern California!!!!

Hey it worked in Carolina and Dakota
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Default State split

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Originally Posted by scirocco22 View Post
Sure, these types of movements have always existed and will continue, I'm sure, but will never come to pass.

I always found the proposal of making all of the area west of the Cascades in both Washington and Oregon one state and all of eastern Washington and Oregon another state. Obviously, it will never happen but interesting none-the-less.

--'rocco
Now there is an idea. I could go for that. I have lived in eastern Oregon and it is a lot different than western Oregon. I have been to western Washongton and did not find it so different from west Oregon.

No it probably won't happen but it is an idea. Now as far as dividing California? I guess that would be up to the people who live there.
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Leavenworth, WA
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Back in the 80's, Cali was looking to split into three states, remember? As a newcomer to Washington I was really surprised by the animosity between the 206ers and 509ers. As my allegiance naturally flows to the red state mentality, I would love to see a new state rid of Seattle's San Francisco way of life. But the Balkinization of our country is pointless, we just have to hope that the blue state types grow up, lol.
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