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Old 06-06-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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I think your premise is a bit off. Eastern Washington is just as reliant on tourism as Western Washington. So my point is valid for a large number of people.

Forest Service employer, logger or farmer? Not sure I get the connection. If farming includes the billion dollar wine industry in Eastern Washington then you are certainly out of touch with what makes Eastern Washington tick. A blanket statement that "Eastern Washington is not reliant on tourism" is just plain incorrect.
You can cherry-pick my words however you want. I said MOST of Eastern Washington is not reliant on tourism. I certainly didn't imply the "farmer" in my example was in the wine industry. The much-bigger-than-the-wine-industry wheat farmers in the Palouse are certainly not reliant on Coasties visiting their fields.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:26 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Ok so what is your point?

You say wheat farmers are not a tourist draw. Yeah duh. But you say eastern wa is not reliant on tourism. Care to back track that one? Seriously.
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:43 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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You can cherry-pick my words however you want. I said MOST of Eastern Washington is not reliant on tourism. I certainly didn't imply the "farmer" in my example was in the wine industry. The much-bigger-than-the-wine-industry wheat farmers in the Palouse are certainly not reliant on Coasties visiting their fields.
A few examples of where we (and many west side friends/family) spend money on the east side of the mountains:


Leavenworth
Lake Chelan (where many from here own property)

Wenatchee area fruit stands
Potholes State Park
Lake Wenatchee
Various Wineries, favorite is Chandler's Reach in Benton City
Grand Coulee Dam
Riverfront Park/Spokane Falls
Lake Roosevelt
Lake Osoyoos
Ohme Gardens
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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Ok so what is your point?

You say wheat farmers are not a tourist draw. Yeah duh. But you say eastern wa is not reliant on tourism. Care to back track that one? Seriously.
My point (which I thought was fairly obvious) is that your post implied that people from Western WA are gracing us here in Eastern WA with your presence by clogging our roads on summer weekends by bringing your tourism dollars. We live in Eastern WA, not Orlando, FL. I'm implying that your presence isn't as beneficial as you seem to think it is.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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A few examples of where we (and many west side friends/family) spend money on the east side of the mountains:


Leavenworth
Lake Chelan (where many from here own property)

Wenatchee area fruit stands
Potholes State Park
Lake Wenatchee
Various Wineries, favorite is Chandler's Reach in Benton City
Grand Coulee Dam
Riverfront Park/Spokane Falls
Lake Roosevelt
Lake Osoyoos
Ohme Gardens
Okay. So you literally just named all the tourist traps in Central WA. In other words, you just made a list of the places that most people in Eastern WA avoid in summer weekends. I think you missed Walla Walla and Winthrop and you would have the whole list.

There's a whole lot more people around those areas that have been working in those same areas that don't benefit from the tourists, but still suffer the consequences of them pouring over the mountains - like the OP, for example.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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My point (which I thought was fairly obvious) is that your post implied that people from Western WA are gracing us here in Eastern WA with your presence by clogging our roads on summer weekends by bringing your tourism dollars. We live in Eastern WA, not Orlando, FL. I'm implying that your presence isn't as beneficial as you seem to think it is.
I think you are confused about my earlier posts. I live in eastern Washington.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:33 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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Okay. So you literally just named all the tourist traps in Central WA. In other words, you just made a list of the places that most people in Eastern WA avoid in summer weekends. I think you missed Walla Walla and Winthrop and you would have the whole list.

There's a whole lot more people around those areas that have been working in those same areas that don't benefit from the tourists, but still suffer the consequences of them pouring over the mountains - like the OP, for example.
Yes, I did forget Winthrop but actually have never been to Walla Walla. We have the same problem here too. The summer tourists and cruise passengers clogging up the Seattle area, and many residents and people that work here do not benefit from them. Just one of the inconveniences of living and/or working in a popular tourism area.
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Old 06-07-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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My point (which I thought was fairly obvious) is that your post implied that people from Western WA are gracing us here in Eastern WA with your presence by clogging our roads on summer weekends by bringing your tourism dollars. We live in Eastern WA, not Orlando, FL. I'm implying that your presence isn't as beneficial as you seem to think it is.
Theme park or not, it's myopic to think you only benefit from tourist dollars if you work in the tourist industry. Money spent in your town, and surrounding towns, on gas, food, recreation, lodging, roadside attractions, supports the whole area, not just those who collect the money today.

Everyone rides the local economy. Not just the waitress at the local diner.
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Old 06-07-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Washington State. Not Seattle.
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Theme park or not, it's myopic to think you only benefit from tourist dollars if you work in the tourist industry. Money spent in your town, and surrounding towns, on gas, food, recreation, lodging, roadside attractions, supports the whole area, not just those who collect the money today.

Everyone rides the local economy. Not just the waitress at the local diner.
Of course, you're right, but it's not binary - it's not whether you benefit or you don't benefit, it's a sliding scale. In Orlando, FL, almost everyone benefits significantly from tourism. In a town like mine, I may benefit, but it's only very indirectly and very minimally and would not cause too much of a hardship if the small amount of tourism in my area dried up completely.
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...hington_(state)


According to this table from Wikipedia, I would say tourism is not that big a part of the state economy on either side of the Cascades. Sad to say that "Government" is our biggest "product" though: (I tried to paste the table and it didn't work - just follow the link to see what I am on about.)
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